2024/2025 NHL/WILD Offseason-Season-Postseason Thread

  • Ripjiggen
    Posts: 12609
    #2319903

    Russo saying Ek 6-8 weeks. Shut it down boys no need to talk deadline deals.

    Heard it on the radio on way to some section HS games. No idea if it’s true. Not seeing anything on his feed sooo.

    lindyrig79
    Forest Lake / Lake Mille Lacs
    Posts: 6241
    #2319906

    Ugh. So sick of the continuous injuries. Particularly to our best players. Have they fired the medical staff yet??

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 19333
    #2319931

    Russo saying Ek 6-8 weeks. Shut it down boys no need to talk deadline deals.

    Heard it on the radio on way to some section HS games. No idea if it’s true. Not seeing anything on his feed sooo.

    I find it strange they would announce he’s out 6-8 weeks a day after he said he didn’t feel good after practice… it typically takes 2 days to get imaging done and results back…

    If true, 8 weeks would put Ek out until the playoffs start…

    tswoboda
    Posts: 9113
    #2319932

    Well it’s Ek so “not feeling good after practice” might be a compound fracture

    They’re looking very good tonight, fun game to watch

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 19333
    #2319933

    Love watching two historically bad penalty kills play against each other….

    Wtf were we doing on the Terasenko goal? Good lord…

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 19333
    #2319945

    Ovi scored again tonight, 11 to tie

    gim
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 18657
    #2319947

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>tswoboda wrote:</div>
    Boeser gets brought up here all the time, I’m just not a fan

    Im not the biggest fan of his either. I tend to agree with whoever said it earlier, he seems to get brought up going to the Wild because he is one of us. Not necessarily by people here, but media, etc. I imagine he would love to play here. I just dont see it being a tremendous upgrade personally. Id probably rather have Nelson than him because he plays D and can win faceoffs. Im surprised Joe isnt a bigger supporter of that.

    I brought it up a couple weeks ago when the Brock Nelson rumors swirled through.

    Given a choice, I’d take the Boeser version over the Nelson version. Younger, right handed shot, higher ceiling. Not that I don’t like Nelson, I just like Boeser more from a production standpoint.

    I’m not up to date on the business aspect of it though. Feasibility of contracts plays a role here too.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 12609
    #2319949

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Ripjiggen wrote:</div>
    Russo saying Ek 6-8 weeks. Shut it down boys no need to talk deadline deals.

    Heard it on the radio on way to some section HS games. No idea if it’s true. Not seeing anything on his feed sooo.

    I find it strange they would announce he’s out 6-8 weeks a day after he said he didn’t feel good after practice… it typically takes 2 days to get imaging done and results back…

    If true, 8 weeks would put Ek out until the playoffs start…

    Agree and don’t see anything online. Maybe I misheard but pretty sure they said it so maybe Kfan had bad info. I was kind of shocked when I heard it.
    They said Russo reported so doubt it’s accurate if he didn’t tweet it.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 12609
    #2319950

    Love watching two historically bad penalty kills play against each other….

    Wtf were we doing on the Terasenko goal? Good lord…

    One Brock might help with that. One would not. whistling

    JoeMX1825
    MN
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    #2319951

    Would that Rossi shot even counted if it went in with Foligno in the net?

    gim
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 18657
    #2319952

    Not the greatest game by Gustavsson tonight. 3 goals on 16 shots. 2 being relatively far out too.

    Rossi had room to tie it late and shorted it wide. At first I thought whoever was in the net (Foligno?) prevented that goal but replay showed Rossi simply missed.

    tswoboda
    Posts: 9113
    #2319953

    Rossi an inch from playing hero again. Who knows if it counts with Foligno balls deep in the net. Got pushed in for sure but he was right in Talbots lap

    Wings had 6 shots after the first period, and 3 went in. 2 of them were logo 3s if we’re playing basketball

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 24489
    #2319988

    Anyone else see Hynes laying into Lauko on the bench literally emphatically shaking his hands and chirping in his ear late in the third? IDK what he did or didnt do, but welcome back from injury I guess.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 19333
    #2319994

    Anyone else see Hynes laying into Lauko on the bench literally emphatically shaking his hands and chirping in his ear late in the third? IDK what he did or didnt do, but welcome back from injury I guess.

    Didn’t see that, the 3rd goal was either Ohgren’s lost coverage or Foligno not switching with him…The only goal I put on GusBus was the one from the blueline, the Terasenko goal was terrible PK coverage by Foligno & Gaudreau and the 3rd goal was just a howitzer from the top of the circles that went pipe in, no goalie is going to stop that one…

    Details matter and last night the Wild got bit in the a$$ by them, to be fair, they did the same thing to the Wings on Saturday…

    I’d like to see the Wild call up Bankier from Iowa vs one of the typical “NHL Ready” scrubs they’ve used this season, our center play by Hinostroza/Gaudreau was bad last night, give the kid a chance for a game or two…

    Speaking of Hinostroza, I still can’t believe we got him off waivers and a day later he’s on our PP1 unit…he’s actually played pretty well, so it has worked out, just crazy we don’t have more depth than that right now…

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 19333
    #2320025

    I thought this was interesting, Ryan Suter’s paychecks this season:

    St Luis Blues – $775k in base salary + $225k + $500k + $600k games played bonuses (potential for a $500k bonus if the Blues make the playoffs)
    +
    Dallas Stars – $1.43 million in Buyout Payment (1 more year of this)
    +
    MN Wild – $833k in Buyout Payment (3 more years of this)

    Total = $4.763 million sofar this season from 3 Different Teams

    AK Guy
    Posts: 1553
    #2320030

    I thought this was interesting, Ryan Suter’s paychecks this season:

    St Luis Blues – $775k in base salary + $225k + $500k + $600k games played bonuses (potential for a $500k bonus if the Blues make the playoffs)
    +
    Dallas Stars – $1.43 million in Buyout Payment (1 more year of this)
    +
    MN Wild – $833k in Buyout Payment (3 more years of this)

    Total = $4.763 million sofar this season from 3 Different Teams

    If I were a pro athlete I would want his agent or Kirk Cousins.

    Dan
    Southeast MN
    Posts: 4068
    #2320035

    Since the Wild are on an off-day I’ll throw this one out there. I’ve stated before that I’m not nearly as hockey literate as a lot of you on this thread so maybe this is a dumb conversation.

    What does everyone think of the team scoring system used in the 4 Nations Faceoff? I believe it was 3 points for a win, 2 points for an overtime win, and 1 point for an overtime loss. I know there’s a lot going on with that scoring system, and it was needed to create some separation in a 4-team tourney with just a few round-robin games.

    I can see the case for the fact that winning outright in regulation is different than not putting a team away until OT. And maybe some people don’t like that an OT loss gives a team a point. I’ve never minded that rule. I remember years ago the Twins seemed to lose in extra innings a couple times a week, and I remember thinking that a team losing in extras sure seemed to be more competitive than a team just outright losing.

    Thoughts? Would it create some separation and better reflect a team’s performance? I’ll hang up and listen.

    tswoboda
    Posts: 9113
    #2320037

    I like incentivising the regulation win. Right now a tie game in the 3rd period is the most boring thing to watch. Both teams fat and happy just waiting to collect their guaranteed point at the end of regulation. I get the loser point makes sense since OT/SO is soooo much different than the rest of the game. I just don’t like how it incentivises teams to cling to to a tie game and do absolutely nothing fun. Really liked the 10 minute OT as well, F shootouts

    Dan
    Southeast MN
    Posts: 4068
    #2320045

    I agree with that, it’s tough scoreboard-watching late in the season and seeing a team you’re chasing (or being chased by) all tied up in the third knowing if both teams just kick the can down the road for awhile they’ll get a point. Some urgency could be added in late third periods.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
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    #2320050

    The simplest step is to reward regulation winners with an extra point, see if that moves the competitive needle at all for games tied in the 3rd period…if it does, great, if it doesn’t then nothing will other than not giving a point for tying (that won’t happen)

    I think 3 on 3 OT will change to 10 minutes in next CBA, you then go to a shootout after that as a means of quickly ending the game (there will still be the odd marathon shootouts still, but I suspect most games get resolved in OT as players get more tired)

    Lastly, there’s the question of will a 10 minute OT change anything from a TV timeslot perspective and running over it, I don’t know, but if it means less time for pre & post games shows, then great…

    All of this stuff should be tested in the AHL first (if it isn’t already?)

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 24489
    #2320051

    The way the current system works it leads to parity which is what the NHL wants. A lot of teams get their pts through OT or shootouts and few regulation wins. It would definitely separate the field and something I think many hockey fans support but bettman won’t do it.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 19333
    #2320058

    The way the current system works it leads to parity which is what the NHL wants. A lot of teams get their pts through OT or shootouts and few regulation wins. It would definitely separate the field and something I think many hockey fans support but bettman won’t do it.

    as I said, they should try it out in the AHL for a few years, see how it effects things…

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 24489
    #2320063

    No need to try it out, it WILL affect things. We have talked about it hear in previous years and how it would shake up the standings. The fact remains tight battles for races down to the end is a win for the NHL and they wont do it. They do the 3 pt regulation win in international play and oddball tourneys so they dont require tiebreaks.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 19333
    #2320065

    No need to try it out, it WILL affect things. We have talked about it hear in previous years and how it would shake up the standings. The fact remains tight battles for races down to the end is a win for the NHL and they wont do it. They do the 3 pt regulation win in international play and oddball tourneys so they dont require tiebreaks.

    Obviously its an extremely small sample size, but the 4 Nations standings was alot of fun in that all 4 teams had a shot at the title game at the end, getting a few regulation wins can dramatically swing standings quickly…

    JoeMX1825
    MN
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    #2320069

    so assuming the 6-8 week timeline for Ek’s injury is accurate, that should solve the Wild’s Trade Deadline capspace issue as they can legitimately keep him on LTIR until the playoffs start?
    Ek’s $5.25 + whatever they could add with other roster moves should be more than enough to afford somebody like a Boesser or Cozens & other top6 guys that might be available…If needed, they can also give up a draft pick for some salary retention as well…

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 24489
    #2320070

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>CaptainMusky wrote:</div>
    No need to try it out, it WILL affect things. We have talked about it hear in previous years and how it would shake up the standings. The fact remains tight battles for races down to the end is a win for the NHL and they wont do it. They do the 3 pt regulation win in international play and oddball tourneys so they dont require tiebreaks.

    Obviously its an extremely small sample size, but the 4 Nations standings was alot of fun in that all 4 teams had a shot at the title game at the end, getting a few regulation wins can dramatically swing standings quickly…

    Yeah, had Canada lost in regulation then it would have been a rematch of the game the US lost. You are right, it was a fun tourney for sure.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 19333
    #2320073

    lol, Oilers claimed McDermid back…

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 12609
    #2320082

    so assuming the 6-8 week timeline for Ek’s injury is accurate, that should solve the Wild’s Trade Deadline capspace issue as they can legitimately keep him on LTIR until the playoffs start?
    Ek’s $5.25 + whatever they could add with other roster moves should be more than enough to afford somebody like a Boesser or Cozens & other top6 guys that might be available…If needed, they can also give up a draft pick for some salary retention as well…

    Since I heard it in on Kfan I have seen nothing to that truth elsewhere. Now I see Russo’s article eluding to trade candidates. If Ek is out long term they need to look for someone down the middle.

    tswoboda
    Posts: 9113
    #2320100

    24-25 Wild team I will always wonder what they could actually be if ever healthy. Maybe it happens in the playoffs, when it actually counts

    lol, Oilers claimed McDermid back…

    rotflol I’m guessing you didn’t buy a (??)McDermid(??) jersey

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