2023 Vikings

Addison looked good. Had a catch that didnt count, shouldve been reviewed but wasnt. Ivan Pace Jr is looking like a real player and an undrafted guy at that.

That Cincinnati LB was a great find.

With Cookie and A Rog the J E T S are my AFC darling this year.

Bass Pundit wrote:

With Cookie and A Rog the J E T S are my AFC darling this year.

They currently have the 7th best odds to win the Super Bowl at 16-1. I think they are a wild card playoff team, but their off season moves do not place them above the Bills in the AFC East. I’ll say 10-7 for the Jets.

On the radio this morning they were saying that the Jets do have all the pieces to make a run though. A veteran QB, a good defense, a good O line, and now a pro bowl running back. So they could easily finish with 11 or 12 wins.

I’ll be surprised if Erin plays 10 games. Although i’ll admit i’ll follow the Jets as closely as I would the XFL. I really can’t stand the guy.

Bass Pundit wrote:

With Cookie and A Rog the J E T S are my AFC darling this year.

Opening weekend has Jets playing Buffalo. I’ll be watching that.

ESPN has a piece today on the Vikings secondary. Big Changes. Interesting they have MN at a 51% chance to make the playoffs and the Lions are 65% chance.

The Lions may be the best team in the division this year.

gimruis wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Bass Pundit wrote:</div>
With Cookie and A Rog the J E T S are my AFC darling this year.

They currently have the 7th best odds to win the Super Bowl at 16-1. I think they are a wild card playoff team, but their off season moves do not place them above the Bills in the AFC East. I’ll say 10-7 for the Jets.

On the radio this morning they were saying that the Jets do have all the pieces to make a run though. A veteran QB, a good defense, a good O line, and now a pro bowl running back. So they could easily finish with 11 or 12 wins.

I don’t see the Jets O-line as more than mediocre, and many think it’s their Achilles heel.

I give them a wildcard playoff spot…but don’t look for them to make much of a run.

vikings remind me of the twins this year. underachieving team in a crappy division sums it up. at least with the NFL its a one game playoff so any given Sunday. SZN can’t start soon enough!

If you win the Division – the following year you play all the other Division winners. On paper, the Vikings have a tough schedule.

eyeguy507 wrote:

vikings remind me of the twins this year. underachieving team in a crappy division sums it up. at least with the NFL its a one game playoff so any given Sunday. SZN can’t start soon enough!

You already know they are going to underachieve 1 preseason game in. You sir need a job in Vegas.

I don’t think their division is any worse than the NFC South and maybe even the NFC West.

not sure how much to believe on these MSN feeds, but why are the Vikings trying out all these different running backs?????? just seen there working out a Mike Davis. last weeks news they had Kreem Hunt in town????

i thought they were pretty much set at that position???

The first part of the schedule is ROUGH – if we can get through the first 6 games at 3-3, I think we’ll be fine.

Ripjiggen wrote:

I don’t think their division is any worse than the NFC South and maybe even the NFC West.

Its not. The Lions are going to be a sleeper team this year and GB could be a surprise if Love is any good.

CaptainMusky wrote:

The Lions are going to be a sleeper team

The Lions have 22-1 odds to win the Super Bowl. The Vikings are 40-1. Both the Bears and Packers are 50-1.

The top 6 teams are as expected.
Chiefs 7-1
Eagles 9-1
Bills, 49ers 10-1
Bengals 12-1
Cowboys 15-1

Then the Jets come in at 16-1, and everyone else is at least 20-1. The two teams with the worst odds are the Cardinals and Texans at 200-1.

gimruis wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>CaptainMusky wrote:</div>
The Lions are going to be a sleeper team

The Lions have 22-1 odds to win the Super Bowl. The Vikings are 40-1. Both the Bears and Packers are 50-1.

The top 6 teams are as expected.
Chiefs 7-1
Eagles 9-1
Bills, 49ers 10-1
Bengals 12-1
Cowboys 15-1

Then the Jets come in at 16-1, and everyone else is at least 20-1. The two teams with the worst odds are the Cardinals and Texans at 200-1.

The 49ers are a super bowl caliber roster outside of the most important position in sports – QB. Trey Lance has been terrible and ultimately looks more and more like a bust. It sounds like they are all in on Purdy with the limited sample size and some pretty bad interceptions thrown in camp. If they had a Kirk Cousins caliber guy at the reigns, they’d become my SB favorite. That roster is loaded and their coaching staff gets a lot out of everyone. I think they’re going to regret not trying to get some veteran QB to compete for the starting job. Jimmy Garoppolo led that team to the SB. They just need mediocre and consistency but instead are rolling the dice on young guys.

NFL strength of schedule (balancing) and the salary cap keep the league interesting. Play-off teams change YOY … only a few teams have near zero chance of making the play-offs …

Well managed teams cycle back to the top faster.

Every team in the NFL is an injury or two from going from good to mediocrity and say 4 (a guess) key injuries or so to the bottom of their Division.

I refuse to buy into all the Lions hype about them being this sleeper team. Lions going to do Lion things, nothing to see here. Not impressed with Fields or Love so these are .500 teams. Love has a better chance because there is no film on him yet and GB has some talent like always. Unless Fields takes a giant leap and learns to pass, he will get figured out.

Its the Vikings division to lose

Not sure I agree with this resting of the starters the entire pre season. I understand there is injury risk, but I think you need to get them in there for a quarter in a preseason game to knock some rust off and get up to game speed. Most other teams are playing their starters for at least a part of the preseason. Pat Mahomes has played for the Chiefs. A-Rodg played for the Jets. Tossing these guys right into the fire in week 1 at 100% game speed is a recipe for disaster.

eyeguy507 wrote:

I refuse to buy into all the Lions hype about them being this sleeper team.

I wouldn’t call a team favored to win the division a “sleeper.” They open the season on a Thursday night in Kansas City. We’ll see how much of a sleeper they are right away. There’s a reason they were selected as the opponent to the champs on national TV to open the season. Restore the roar.

i kind of like their blue collar coach but they’ll get blasted

gimruis wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>eyeguy507 wrote:</div>
I refuse to buy into all the Lions hype about them being this sleeper team.

I wouldn’t call a team favored to win the division a “sleeper.” They open the season on a Thursday night in Kansas City. We’ll see how much of a sleeper they are right away. There’s a reason they were selected as the opponent to the champs on national TV to open the season. Restore the roar.

It’s a hype game. Everybody gets a turn. If the Lions compete the networks get to hype them all season. If KC pounds them into the kittens they always have been then the great Mahomes hype machine starts running full tilt.
Remember, it’s all about the gambling. If the kittens win do you think we will hear the “fix” was in?

This team better hope they don’t have many injuries this season. The B squad doesn’t look too impressive.

I seem to remember the Lions having their way with the Vikings last December.

My money would be on the Lions over the Vikes for the division.

I’m not ready to put the Lions on top. Goff is still their qb and it’s still the Lions. They have to prove it before I start believing.

stout93 wrote:

I seem to remember the Lions having their way with the Vikings last December.

My money would be on the Lions over the Vikes for the division.

The Lions won 8 of their last 10 games to end the season, including a 10 point home win over the Vikings and a road win at the Packers. That final game kept Green Bay out of the playoffs. The Lions had nothing to play for other than the pride of ending a rival’s season, and they did just that.

My money is also on the kitties this season. 11-6 is my prediction.

I think they’ll be neck and neck with the Vikings. If they start the season hot I might change my mind. They have a completely unproven running game, St Brown can’t stay healthy and the rookie WR from last year is out the first 6 games. They have a lot to prove before the hype is real.

Vikings: 10-7
Lions: 9-8
Packers: 8-9
Bears: 7-10

I think it might be the most competitive division amongst themselves for the North, but as far as a SB I don’t see any threat from the North.

My thoughts on teams that are playoff contenders for the NFC:

The Eagles might be better and deeper than last season IF Hurts has similar play.

The 49ers are very comparable across the board at every position except QB.

…then there’s a pretty big gap

The Vikings offense can play with anyone and the defense should be improved, but it will be substantially worse than the Eagles and 49ers still

The Cowboys have talent, but they are the Cowboys. They will impress at times and struggle when they shouldn’t.

The Giants overachieved with a soft schedule last year and then the overrated Vikings with a negative scoring differential for the playoffs. I expect them to miss the playoffs of the teams mentioned here.

The Lions are talented and hungry. They are still the Lions though and now won’t be taken lightly. Maybe a wildcard team?

Someone has to with the NFC South. The Saints???

gimruis wrote:

Not sure I agree with this resting of the starters the entire pre season. I understand there is injury risk, but I think you need to get them in there for a quarter in a preseason game to knock some rust off and get up to game speed. Most other teams are playing their starters for at least a part of the preseason. Pat Mahomes has played for the Chiefs. A-Rodg played for the Jets. Tossing these guys right into the fire in week 1 at 100% game speed is a recipe for disaster.

Yeah sure didn’t work out last year doing same thing…

The offense is fine not starting, but why wouldn’t you get the D some good reps to get things comfortable?