If anyone thinks we’ve given drafting QBs a fair shake they’re insane. We’re seeing the consequences of not dedicating enough draft capital to the MOST IMPORTANT position in the game.
Probably the most important position in sports honestly. You can win without an elite QB but rarely do you have repeatable results and dynasties.
But but but the 49ers have Brock Purdy. They didn’t give up on drafting QBs. 
So Waldo I take it you are of the belief that Cousins is the issue with this team.
But but but the 49ers have Brock Purdy. They didn’t give up on drafting QBs.
So Waldo I take it you are of the belief that Cousins is the issue with this team.
Absolutely not! IMO the IOL and defensive front 7 are the big issues with this team. I’ve been a supporter of Kirk for the most part as long as he’s been here. HOWEVER, we’re at a crossroads as a franchise. Kirk is slated to be the best QB heading into next years FA, and is likely going to want $45+ million on a 3-ish year deal. I don’t see the Vikings going for that. IF we had all the other pieces in place then sure, but I just don’t see it. The only way he comes back is on a 1-year deal to allow a QB we draft to sit for a year.
So, all that said, what do we do when Kirk leaves? Sign another FA journeyman? I think we’ve beat that horse to death. We may as well spend a high draft pick in a draft that is historically deep at QB. If we can solidify our QB position through the draft going forward, that will allow us to spend those high picks in coming drafts on the other important areas of need (IOL, DL, etc.).
“The only two times in the past 15 years we’ve given first round picks to the QB was Ponder in 2011 (reach) and Teddy in 2014. Otherwise you see one taken in the third round (reach on Mond), two in the 5th, and one in the 7th.
If anyone thinks we’ve given drafting QBs a fair shake they’re insane. We’re seeing the consequences of not dedicating enough draft capital to the MOST IMPORTANT position in the game.”
I guess I was just confused then by your original contradicting statement.
Why would you use draft capital especially high draft capital when your QB was under contract for multiple years.
If they choose to move on and draft someone high now to replace Kurt that seems more logical even though that draft capital clearly needs to spent elsewhere as well.
To me the biggest issue has been the previous regime last draft that resulted in nada followed by the new regime first draft that resulted in nada.
IMO that will set you back big time for future growth and a chance to improve your team.
Some seem to think you can plug all your holes with one draft. Sorry but that is unrealistic especially if you have several holes.
Kirk is not the issue…and I’ve said that forever. The Vikings are not solid in the trenches and have a defense that is vastly less talented than most rosters.
The biggest issue looking forward is that the Vikings most talented young player in a long time (JJ) is basically in his prime and will continue to be…during a time where some are chanting rebuild and another huge decision on Cousins is looming. I think they almost have to keep Cousins indefinitely.
If they don’t keep Cousins and do not have the next viable plan at QB ready, JJ is going to want out of town…regardless of what contract he is or is not under
“The only two times in the past 15 years we’ve given first round picks to the QB was Ponder in 2011 (reach) and Teddy in 2014. Otherwise you see one taken in the third round (reach on Mond), two in the 5th, and one in the 7th.
If anyone thinks we’ve given drafting QBs a fair shake they’re insane. We’re seeing the consequences of not dedicating enough draft capital to the MOST IMPORTANT position in the game.”
I guess I was just confused then by your original contradicting statement.
Why would you use draft capital especially high draft capital when your QB was under contract for multiple years.If they choose to move on and draft someone high now to replace Kurt that seems more logical even though that draft capital clearly needs to spent elsewhere as well.
To me the biggest issue has been the previous regime last draft that resulted in nada followed by the new regime first draft that resulted in nada.
IMO that will set you back big time for future growth and a chance to improve your team.
Some seem to think you can plug all your holes with one draft. Sorry but that is unrealistic especially if you have several holes.
To answer your first question, I don’t believe we’ve ever thought Kirk as being the long term answer. When he was brought in we were fresh off the Miracle and were definitely more built for a run then than what we are now. Seeing as how we haven’t really made a meaningful run since, sooner or later we need(ed) to start thinking about the QB of the future.
I do agree with this (bold) whole-heartedly. Right or wrong, two years straight of not restocking the cupboards has left this team with plenty of holes. Most of that I put on Rick, but if draft number two and/or draft number 3 of Kwesi don’t do much then the Wilfs will need to start asking some questions.
From the Athletic:
As I reported two weeks ago, former Chiefs backup QB Chad Henne told me the Jets offered him their backup job but he wanted to stay retired. There also has been speculation about other veteran QBs who could be in the trade mix for the Jets, especially Minnesota’s Kirk Cousins. But the Jets have not called the Vikings about Cousins nor the Titans about Ryan Tannehill, according to multiple team sources.
And despite the winless Vikings entering Week 4 with their second consecutive game against a winless opponent, two team sources said the Vikings are not punting on the season and have no plans to trade Cousins, who would have to waive his no-trade clause to be moved. In addition, those sources shot down trade rumors regarding star wide receiver Justin Jefferson. The team already tried extending Jefferson in a deal that would make him one of the highest-paid players in football.
Turnover queens at it again…
99 yard pick 6…
I did love the way he got leveled though… earned it!
Nullified Jefferson TD because of a penalty turns into a pick 6 for Carolina. That is the story with this team this season. Costly costly mistakes
Will the Vikes bookend the first half with turnovers?
Yep, It’s almost comical at this point.
Are the Vikes going to choke again?
Nope, the D comes through in the red zone.
Vikings get the win… yay 
A win is a win. But there is not much to get to excited about in this one. A rather ugly win against a rather poor team. It was good to see the running game get going a little. But that O-line is still horrible and likely yet to get even worse as the season goes along and injuries start to show up.maybe if the run off 5-6 straight wins I’ll start to get a little excited.
I never watched any part of the game, did Akers and that new offensive lineman play today??
Maybe why they won!! 
I never watched any part of the game, did Akers and that new offensive lineman play today??
Maybe why they won!!
Akers looked solid. 5 carries for 40 yards with a long of 10 and two receptions. I don’t know about Risner. Kirk didn’t play very good.
Barely winning against one of the two worst teams in the league isn’t much to get excited about. Now if they had won against the Bill’s or Chief’s that would be a different story.
Risner didnt play at all at least I never noticed him. Good to see Davenport finally play and he looked fairly good. Harrison had a HOF type game, man he was everywhere. 3 sacks, one forced fumble that led to a scoop and score. I admit I said he was washed 2 years ago but he has been proving me wrong ever since. Ugly day for the offense but the defense played well overall. JJ still got his TDs and one was taken away so could have been 3.
Barely winning against one of the two worst teams in the league isn’t much to get excited about. Now if they had won against the Bill’s or Chief’s that would be a different story.
I would argue that the Broncos and Bears are just as bad as Carolina. Especially the Bears after their blown 28-7 lead on Denver in the second half.
The Chiefs visit the people’s stadium for a 3:25pm game on Sunday.
Yes the Bronco’s don’t look good either, but they did come back to beat the Bears. So I will change it. Barely winning against one of the three worst teams right now in the NFL isn’t much to get excited about. Especially if you factor in the defensive touchdown the Vikings scored. Without that fumble recovery for a touchdown it could have been a different outcome in the game. Doesn’t look good for this weekends game. Vikings offense is much better than the Jets, but the defense is much worse than the Jets. Could be a high scoring game.
Yeah, it would’ve been a different game without that strip sack fumble, but it also would’ve been a different game without the pick-6 int. and the other int. where Kirk was hit on the throw that also resulted in Carolina points before the half. Turnovers are killing us – plain and simple. Can’t win if you can’t possess the football. take away half of the turnovers so far this year and we might be 3-1 or even 4-0.
Its easy to pick apart one play and say that turned the game, but there are also many more that turn the game. The game was in hand until that pick six. I was screaming at the tv “Do NOT throw to KJ”! Well guess what Kirk made a terrible decision and threw to KJ. The scoop and score is something that doesnt happen often but those two plays offset themselves. This team will be fine and win a bunch more games just need to clean up the turnovers.
This team will be fine and win a bunch more games just need to clean up the turnovers.
I agree, and I think we were very spoiled by all those one possession wins last season (until the playoff game) too.
i sure as hello hope i read this wrong!!!!!!! 
but just read the Vikings signed the former row the boat QB Tanner Morgan!!!!!!!! 
cant believe there isnt something better out there!!!!!!
He’s signed to the practice squad. My wild theory is there’s something they see or like about him to put him to use on the scout team. We’ve got Mahomes and Fields up next so obviously not them, but maybe they need him to be Brock Purdy for the 49ers week?
I could very well be wrong but I don’t know that there are other theories out there that make much more sense either. All that aside hey, I’m honestly happy for him, hopefully he has some fun and makes a little more money.
Good theory but,
My guess is signed him for about 4 days. Nick Mullens back is bothering him.
Ha, that’s right, I did hear that. Wasted a good theory for nothing.
I think you were kinda right. They have the Bears coming so Morgan can imitate a guy who isn’t a NFL starting quarterback.
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