2023/2024 NHL/WILD Offseason-Season-Postseason Thread

  • CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22564
    #2278450

    Yeah there was a lot of talk about how the jets couldn’t fill their arena but it would be a real tragedy if they left again. I doubt that happens.
    Leon sure seems at least based on his post games to be a dink. But that might very well be their media that he is tired of. They ask him some real stupid questions.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17771
    #2278460

    When do they announce injuries?

    at their end of the season presser, probably tomorrow due to travel..

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8453
    #2278567

    Can you believe this tiny little #1D survived the entire playoffs?! I’m assuming they voted him #3 for mvp because they were astonished he made it out in one piece

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    tswoboda
    Posts: 8453
    #2278570

    Lots going on right now before summer break.

    JR, Shea Weber, and Datsyuk all voted into the HHOF. Can’t complain about any of those, just shocked Weber is already eligible ?! Datsyuk is one of my all time favorites to watch play

    Today is buyout day, Jeff Skinner the first announced… think Billy G takes a shot on him? jester

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17771
    #2278572

    Can you believe this tiny little #1D survived the entire playoffs?! I’m assuming they voted him #3 for mvp because they were astonished he made it out in one piece

    if a 6 foot 186 lb Defenseman is “small” What do you call his 6’4″ 215 lb D Partner? Average?

    I also love how the rest of the names on that list are 6’1″ or bigger…great post…

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17771
    #2278573

    Today is buyout day, Jeff Skinner the first announced… think Billy G takes a shot on him?

    I don’t think there’s anything wrong with a sub $5aav for a few seasons of Jeff Skinner…yes he had 2 marginal covid seasons on rebuilding teams, but he was always going to be deemed a bust with that ridiculous aav…

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8453
    #2278578

    I don’t think there’s anything wrong with a sub $5aav for a few seasons of Jeff Skinner…

    He’s not exactly BGs type… might be the softest player in the league. They could have him for 3x$4.5 via trade if they wanted him, any team could right now

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17771
    #2278583

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>JoeMX1825 wrote:</div>
    I don’t think there’s anything wrong with a sub $5aav for a few seasons of Jeff Skinner…

    He’s not exactly BGs type… might be the softest player in the league. They could have him for 3x$4.5 via trade if they wanted him, any team could right now

    I don’t disagree on his play style, but he also still puts up points…82points two seasons ago…last year was not great with 46 points, but that’s looking through the lens of a $9aav player…

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17771
    #2278586

    Sounds like a Middleton extension 4 x $4-4.5 is a forgone conclusion and will be signed July 1st…not sure how I feel about it…Love the personality, not sure his game is good enough…for those who argue we need his size, you can find tons of UFA players with size on July 1st… maybe its Spurgeon insurance? its likely a final nail in the Wild coffin for somebody like Carson Lambos, especially if they draft a defenseman on Friday…

    Really surprised Russo said that GMBG and the Faber camp haven’t discussed an extension yet…

    tswoboda
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    #2278592

    Sounds like a Middleton extension 4 x $4-4.5 is a forgone conclusion and will be signed July 1st…not sure how I feel about it

    Agree. Not saying it’s bad, but doesn’t feel like a deal that needs to be done a full year in advance. I’d think they could get him at that next spring even if he has a good year.

    Although I’d take Middleton over any UFA D that signed a similar AAV deal last summer, so maybe it does need to get done early. Graves, Gudas, Mayfield, Soucy

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17264
    #2278599

    Is Celebrini still the projected top overall pick?

    Last I heard he hadn’t made a decision on whether he was going to return to BU next season or turn pro.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17771
    #2278601

    Is Celebrini still the projected top overall pick?

    Last I heard he hadn’t made a decision on whether he was going to return to BU next season or turn pro.

    100% Celibrini #1, who’s #2 is the wildcard, Demidov or the Michigan State Defenseman…

    tswoboda
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    #2278602

    Just learned about this and it’s the coolest thing ever. Check the performance bonus details on the bottom

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    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11588
    #2278632

    Sounds like a Middleton extension 4 x $4-4.5 is a forgone conclusion and will be signed July 1st…not sure how I feel about it…

    Well there you have it folks. Watching teams playing for the cup that are absolutely loaded with talent and then Wild Billy Gee fires the first new season shot by signing a so-so defenseman to a deal that’s at least a year too long.

    And he hasn’t even talked to the Faber camp yet? WTAF?

    All this talk about the draft makes me wonder will there be any decent GMs still on the board when the wild pick at number 13?

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17771
    #2278636

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>JoeMX1825 wrote:</div>
    Sounds like a Middleton extension 4 x $4-4.5 is a forgone conclusion and will be signed July 1st…not sure how I feel about it…

    Well there you have it folks. Watching teams playing for the cup that are absolutely loaded with talent and then Wild Billy Gee fires the first new season shot by signing a so-so defenseman to a deal that’s at least a year too long.

    And he hasn’t even talked to the Faber camp yet? WTAF?

    All this talk about the draft makes me wonder will there be any decent GMs still on the board when the wild pick at number 13?

    Regarding the Faber note, now there’s still an entire year they have to get a deal done, maybe they wait and Faber’s play comes back down to earth this season and his contract numbers come down? it’s not like they won’t eventually sign him…Him winning Rookie of the year could change things though…

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8453
    #2278647

    Regarding the Faber note, now there’s still an entire year they have to get a deal done, maybe they wait and Faber’s play comes back down to earth this season and his contract numbers come down?

    More likely than his play falling off is his opportunity and role being a bit less this year, assuming Spurgeon is back. Last year #2 RHD was Bogosian, who passed through waivers unclaimed. Between than and Brodin missing games, Faber was relied on to carry an entire D core… which he crushed. Between that and how much time he spends running PP1 this year.

    I think there’s no rush to get a deal done now unless it’s at a number they really like. At the same time they better do what’s needed to keep him around for a long time. Kind of like the Boldy deal.

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11588
    #2278657

    I think there’s no rush to get a deal done now unless it’s at a number they really like.

    There is a 0.00% chance that the price for Faber will go down. Even if his utilization changes and therefore his numbers go down slightly, all of this is against the background of an aging defensive core of Spurgeon and Brodin.

    For the Wild the BEST case scenario is they sign Faber later at the same price they could have signed him now. But let’s look at a different scenario. Say Spurgeon or Brodin spends 24-25 in and out of the lineup. Faber’s agent will have a field day with Billy Gee.

    There is no risk vs reward. Not signing Faber now is 100% risk.

    tswoboda
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    #2278665

    There is a 0.00% chance that the price for Faber will go down

    Hard disagree. Deal would be signed July 1 if this were the case

    For the Wild the BEST case scenario is they sign Faber later at the same price they could have signed him now.

    Can you walk me through the logic behind this?

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11588
    #2278668

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>TheFamousGrouse wrote:</div>
    For the Wild the BEST case scenario is they sign Faber later at the same price they could have signed him now.

    Can you walk me through the logic behind this?

    What is it about the logic you don’t understand? I’m saying that there is no chance what it will take to sign Faber will go down. The far more likely scenario is the price will go up.

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8453
    #2278670

    I think I understand what you’re saying now. At first I thought you meant here was some sort of advantage to signing him next year vs. now, but at the same contact numbers.

    Grouse for how 100.00% certain you are on this I can’t believe you haven’t been named GM yet. At least a senior advisor type of role. Seems you have it pretty dialed in.

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11574
    #2278673

    There is a 0.00% chance that the price for Faber will go down.

    Injury, disease, the hockey equivalent of the yips, baby momma or other off ice drama. It’s definitely not 0.00%.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22564
    #2278676

    The chance of it going down is definitely greater than 0% and since he is on an ELC it is worth the risk of waiting IMO. I really doubt it is going to go up because look at all the injuries they had this year and how much playing time he had. Hard to believe it will be a repeat of that next year.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
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    #2278680

    In his final mock draft, TSN’s Craig Button has the Wild taking Cole Eiserman with the 13th pick, i’d be extremely happy with that pick..

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8453
    #2278689

    Trying to post the Athletic consensus board here, let’s see if it works…
    …OK not great but at least shows their consensus ranking

    CONS. NAME POS. PRONMAN WHEELER PETERS BUTTON MCKENZIE
    1 Macklin Celebri C 1 1 1 1 1
    2 Ivan Demidov RW 8 2 3 2 2
    3 Artyom Levshuno RHD 2 3 2 8 3
    4 Zeev Buium LHD 5 4 6 4 7
    5 Anton Silayev LHD 4 9 4 12 4
    6 Zayne Parekh RHD 9 5 8 7 8
    7 Cayden Lindstro C 10 10 7 9 5
    8 Sam Dickinson LHD 11 6 9 10 6
    9 Berkly Catton C 6 8 5 14 12
    10 Tij Iginla C/W 13 12 12 3 10
    11 Konsta Helenius C 14 11 13 6 9
    12 Carter Yakemchu RHD 3 13 10 15 13
    T13 Beckett Senneck RW 7 16 11 11 11
    T13 Cole Eiserman LW 16 7 14 5 14
    15 Michael BrandsegRW 17 14 15 17 17
    16 Adam Jiricek RHD 15 22 16 19 16
    17 Stian Solberg LHD 12 21 25 20 20
    18 Michael Hage C 25 15 17 21 24
    19 Trevor Connelly LW 24 17 20 27 15
    T20 Igor Chernyshov LW 18 23 19 24 21
    T20 Jett Luchanko C 19 31 18 18 19
    22 Liam Greentree RW 23 18 31 23 18
    23 Sacha Boisvert C 27 24 22 25 22
    24 Terik Parascak RW 37 20 28 13 25
    25 EJ Emery RHD 36 32 23 16 27
    26 Cole Beaudoin C 20 37 27 28 23
    27 Leo Wallenius LHD 21 27 34 29 42
    T28 Egor Surin C 31 41 26 31 34
    T28 Emil Hemming RW 50 19 29 39 26
    30 Nikita Artamono LW 30 40 21 40 35
    31 Charlie Elick RHD 22 43 24 49 33
    32 Matvei Gridin RW 34 38 30 36 37
    33 Ryder Ritchie RW 49 30 37 32 31
    34 Dominik Badinka RHD 29 44 44 48 29
    35 Marek Vanacker LW 52 35 50 34 28
    36 Andrew Basha LW 87 29 47 30 30
    T37 Linus Eriksson C 26 47 43 42 44
    T37 Cole Hutson LHD 60 34 35 26 47
    39 Julius Miettine C 33 69 38 22 46
    40 Dean Letourneau C 28 45 32 69 36
    41 Sam O’Reilly RW 41 52 49 35 32
    42 Adam Kleber RHD 35 49 33 47 51
    T43 Henry Mews RHD 42 26 36 70 48
    T43 Maxim Masse RW 48 28 56 46 39
    45 Lucas Petterss C 40 36 41 66 40
    46 Alfons Freij LHD 83 39 58 37 41
    47 Teddy Stiga C 65 33 40 64 43
    48 Aron Kiviharju LHD 61 25 52 60 52
    49 Jesse Pulkkinen LHD 46 75 42 75 38
    50 Tanner Howe LW 66 42 46 74 45
    51 Luca Marrelli RHD 43 73 51 44 62
    52 Adam Jecho C 38 62 45 67 60
    53 Matvei Shuravin LHD 32 66 NR 61 50
    T54 Ben Danford RHD 44 58 57 78 54
    T54 John Mustard C 67 51 39 68 58
    56 Leon Muggli LHD 80 48 48 62 56
    57 Harrison Brunic RHD 45 56 54 72 61
    58 Will Skahan LHD 63 64 59 52 49
    59 Justin Poirier RW 90 55 83 38 0
    60 Max Plante LW 88 76 73 33 65
    61 Veeti Vaisanen LHD 82 59 65 43 75
    T62 Marcus Gidlof G 39 86 86 NR NR
    T62 Carson Wetsch RW 51 82 53 65 70
    T62 Simon Zether C 58 46 72 90 88
    T62 Spencer Gill RHD 106 97 81 51 53

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8453
    #2278691

    My wild guess is they take whatever top D-man falls out of the top 10, and it will be one of the chl 30 goal scorers – Yakemchuk or Parekh.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22564
    #2278693

    Id be good with either of those choices if they are available.

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11588
    #2278694

    The chance of it going down is definitely greater than 0%

    You are absolutely right. It’s 0.008%. Definitely not 0.00%.

    But at least we made Middleton the priority, so he’s locked up until the next decade.

    Hard to believe it will be a repeat of that next year.

    Isn’t that the story of our Wild lives? That could NEVER happen again next season.

    Back to the draft. All I’ve seen for the past 2 weeks is Eiserman at 13. He is a pure goal scorer. His faults are he shoots too much and defends too little, which are faults that have never before been associated with any pure goal scorer since the ancient Greeks. I hope he’s there at 13, but I think other GMs will not be able to resist goalscorering.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17771
    #2278706

    My wild guess is they take whatever top D-man falls out of the top 10, and it will be one of the chl 30 goal scorers – Yakemchuk or Parekh.

    Yakemchuk is a wildcard, I wouldn’t hate the pick, Parekh is the opposite of what the Wild want to do on defense, the only player i’d take that goes against the bigger/stronger/meaner direction is Zeev Buium, that kid is just special…

    I just laugh at the idea of Eiserman slipping (hopefully to the Wild) because scouts think he slacks playing defense…the kid is an absolute wizard shooting the puck and all he’s ever done at every level he’s played at is score goals, lots of them… I hate those kind of players (said nobody ever)

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