2023/2024 NHL/WILD Offseason-Season-Postseason Thread

  • tswoboda
    Posts: 8723
    #2270603

    You keep bringing up Rossi at Wing, but the team has never put him there (maybe he played a few game stretch, but they put him back at center) he and they seem deadset at him playing center… Yurov absolutely could though…

    Yurov is who I was referring to. He was drafted as a wing and has played plenty of both. But still absolutely think Rossi could go there too. Anyone not named JEEK could easily be expected to play wing if needed, not that big of deal

    JoeMX1825
    MN
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    #2270604

    Right so the point is to take advantage of those cheap RFA years, right? Not trade them all 3 years before they might get paid $7m. All because there are some good prospects coming up who might be better

    If he is eventually due that payday and they don’t want to pay it, they can still trade him then

    agreed, the added benefit to trading Rossi this offseason is the team getting him has an ELC season left…so it just adds to his value…

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8723
    #2270607

    the added benefit to trading Rossi this offseason is the team getting him has an ELC season left…so it just adds to his value…

    Another 30 points on the stat sheet would add a hell of a lot more though

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 18385
    #2270608

    That’s who I was referring too. He was drafted as a wing and has played plenty of both

    Yeah, you typically don’t just flip to center as an 18+ year old, you switch from center to wing… kinda strange, but I guess the Wild felt he could do it and somehow got the KHL team to agree and it appears to have worked out (he handled the defensive part fine, but obviously needs to work on faceoffs)

    JoeMX1825
    MN
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    #2270612

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>JoeMX1825 wrote:</div>
    the added benefit to trading Rossi this offseason is the team getting him has an ELC season left…so it just adds to his value…

    Another 30 points on the stat sheet would add a hell of a lot more though

    not disagreeing, this would be a risk if they did it no doubt…they only do it if they feel the kid they get back provides more than Rossi could, a big scoring RH shot winger is a HUGE need from a secondary scoring standpoint…The only types of players I think of as worthy of trading Rossi are guys like a Ryan Leonard…

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 23391
    #2270613

    Personally from the amount of time I have seen Rossi play I think he is a more effective center than he would be at wing. He sees the ice well, is strong on the puck, putting him at wing takes away a lot of what he is good at IMO. He is a puck distributor IMO and that is better to be a center than wing unless on the PP I guess.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 18385
    #2270614

    Heidt is another future top prospect who COULD be moved to Wing for roster slotting purposes, but he’s a great faceoff guy and a great middle of the ice distributor, not sure they want to change that. It will be interesting to see if he grows at all this offseason, he’s currently the same size as Braydon Point and that’s the style of player he matches upto imo…

    JoeMX1825
    MN
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    #2270615

    Personally from the amount of time I have seen Rossi play I think he is a more effective center than he would be at wing. He sees the ice well, is strong on the puck, putting him at wing takes away a lot of what he is good at IMO. He is a puck distributor IMO and that is better to be a center than wing unless on the PP I guess.

    other than a few games this season when Deano was desperate, he’s played Center his entire career…I didn’t notice many situations this season when he couldn’t handle the defensive responsibilities the center has or when his size was an issue, he played well in all offensive situations and only scored 1 fewer goal than Bejesus…all reasons why he’s our best trade asset!

    JoeMX1825
    MN
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    #2270616

    I always thought the Rossi trade idea was stupid, i’m just saying I can now understand why the idea is apparently out there…

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8723
    #2270618

    Personally from the amount of time I have seen Rossi play I think he is a more effective center than he would be at wing. He sees the ice well, is strong on the puck, putting him at wing takes away a lot of what he is good at IMO. He is a puck distributor IMO and that is better to be a center than wing unless on the PP I guess.

    Don’t disagree at all. Just saying not that big of a deal to move a center to wing, if or when needed.

    I always thought the Rossi trade idea was stupid, i’m just saying I can now understand why the idea is apparently out there…

    I read it as Russo’s way of saying the Wild brass doesn’t love him

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 18385
    #2270623

    JoeMX1825 wrote:
    I always thought the Rossi trade idea was stupid, i’m just saying I can now understand why the idea is apparently out there…

    I read it as Russo’s way of saying the Wild brass doesn’t love him

    I think of it as he’s the ONLY asset they have and would be willing to trade (no Boldy/Wallstedt) to get better (starting next season at the longest) that other teams would be interested in…so it would need to be for a young player with either 1-2 seasons in the NHL or in their final year of NCAA/CHL knowing they would play in the NHL next year…

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8723
    #2270625

    Yep and why are they not willing to trade those other guys… because they love them

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 18385
    #2270627

    Yep and why are they not willing to trade those other guys… because they love them

    well, yes I think they like a potential generational goalie and a 6’2″ Goal scoring winger signed to a good contract for 6 more years better than a 5’9″ Center…Begs the question, then why did they draft him? That’s a great question Russo and others should ask GMBG if they could…

    IF you’re GMBG and staff, if you FEEL Yurov or Heidt will be your top 6 Center option with Ek when they make the Wild, would you rather have Rossi needing a place to fit in at 3C or one of the last 2 top 6 Wing spots (where he’s never played before) or somebody like a Ryan Leonard? That’s the scenario they are contemplating…

    JoeMX1825
    MN
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    #2270634

    No AM34 for the Leafs tonight…

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8723
    #2270635

    No AM34 for the Leafs tonight…

    Undefeated without him…. Think it’s secretly a healthy scratch so they don’t embarrass him and hurt his feelings? Kinda like Deano did with Freddy last fall

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 18385
    #2270639

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>JoeMX1825 wrote:</div>
    No AM34 for the Leafs tonight…

    Undefeated without him…. Think it’s secretly a healthy scratch so they don’t embarrass him and hurt his feelings? Kinda like Deano did with Freddy last fall

    it’s strange for sure…check the guy who fills the water bottles…

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11838
    #2270678

    The team is severely lacking high end forwards yet they need to ship out this young, potential high end forward because there’s no room for him? Makes no sense

    That sums it up perfectly.

    Also the argument seems to be we need to get rid of a 20+ goal / 40+ point guy so we can bring in a 20+ goal 40+ point guy…

    If I had to pick one forward who is most likely to score 10 more goals next season than the did this past season, Rossi is my guy. He had an incredible number of near misses this season.

    I’m sure GMBG and staff have whiteboarded the hell out of what this team could project to be 2-4 years out and they aren’t willing to put Rossi’s name down in Sharpie…

    There’s another name that isn’t written in sharpie when projecting who is on the Wild team in 2-4 years–Billy Gee’s. Blaming everything on the buyouts and pointing at the prospect pool rankings is only going to work for so long when you’re missing the playoffs.

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11838
    #2270679

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>JoeMX1825 wrote:</div>
    No AM34 for the Leafs tonight…

    Undefeated without him…. Think it’s secretly a healthy scratch so they don’t embarrass him and hurt his feelings?

    This would be a ridiculous assertion were it not for the simple fact that we’re talking about the Leafs here. So it can’t be ruled out, that’s for sure.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 23391
    #2270697

    Rossi is such an easy kid to root for I would hate to see him go. There are some questionable contracts Id rather get rid of before I would want to get rid of him. Freddy and JoJo for starters, but no chance at that after the year they had.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 18385
    #2270726

    Rossi is such an easy kid to root for I would hate to see him go. There are some questionable contracts Id rather get rid of before I would want to get rid of him. Freddy and JoJo for starters, but no chance at that after the year they had.

    Remember Jojo can be demoted to the minors for cap savings (if he even accepts the demotion, likely not) Freddy’s contract will be moveable in a year or two at the most, it’s a low AAV and he plays Center, some rebuilding team would take that on for a no drama veteran if incentivized with a draft pick or two…if he has a turn around and plays the way he did last year, we’ll take it for $2.1aav (as much as I hate watching him)

    Hopefully he shoots 20,000 pucks this summer up in the BC Wilderness….

    Charlie W
    TRF / Pool 3 / Grand Rapids, MN / SJU
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    #2270788

    I love watching Toronto lose in the playoffs.

    I hate watching Toronto win in the playoffs.

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8723
    #2270800

    Lol I love the comeback drama. Can’t believe how Boston is pising this down their leg though

    JoeMX1825
    MN
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    #2270801

    IF Boston loses game 7, they would be the first team EVER in major pro sports to blow 3-1 leads in consecutive years…

    gim
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17862
    #2270802

    Its like the Bruins forgot they even had game 6 to play. I think the shots were 15-1 at one point in the second period. How do you only generate ONE shot on goal after 24 minutes of play? That seems impossible.

    Not like it matters anyways. The winner is just a placeholder to get stomped by a superior rested Panthers team.

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8723
    #2270806

    Bruins managed 2 shots in game 5 first period and 1 shot in game 6 first period. They need a diaper change before game 7

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 18385
    #2270898

    Have you guys read about the potential Pierre Luc Dubios buyout idea? So he turns 26 on June 24th, why is that date important, because if you’re 25 years old or younger, the buyout option is 1/3 of the remaining contract total, once you turn 26 years old, that changes to owing 2/3 of the remaining contract total. The buyout window opens June 15th or 48 hours AFTER the Stanley Cup is awarded whichever date is LATER, the current schedule shows Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals falling on June 24th. So they could get screwed just based on when the Cup is won.

    The Buyout would have a significant caphit the first 7 years, then a smaller hit for an additional 7 years! But those totals can differ by 1/3 depending on when the Stanley Cup is won and how old he is…

    its just crazy and rumors are they are seriously considering it! If they try to trade him, they will likely need to eat a good chunk of his $8.5 aav owed another 7 years and include draft picks to sweeten the deal…

    I admit, I was saying the Wild should take a chance on trying to acquire him last year in hopes he would mature as a person/player, we dodged a bullet there!

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 23391
    #2270937

    Well Haight is having himself a night tonight. Hat trick

    gim
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17862
    #2270990

    Vegas has forced a game 7 in big D on Sunday night.

    If the Stars lose, my bracket is toast.

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8723
    #2271046

    Looks like Boston got their much needed diaper change. Fun game so far

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8723
    #2271067

    The Leafs really made this as heartbreaking as possible for their fans, and I truly appreciate that rotflol

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