2023/2024 NHL/WILD Offseason-Season-Postseason Thread

Ripjiggen wrote:

Your crazy.

“You’re”

Oy Vey.

TheFamousGrouse wrote:

Looking at consensus top 10, there are 4-5 D picks in there which seems to be a D heavy mix that high. Is this a good thing or a bad thing for the wild if we’re assuming we’d be in the top 10?

Yeah, the top 3 Defenseman all have big size (6’3″+) and offensive skill, then the next few like Zeev Buium and Zayne Parekh (how about those names?) are 6′ stud offensively minded defenseman that can skate like the wind…

I think the Wild would jump on any of them…the hard decision factor is you then mix in the top 5 forwards which would all be top 3 picks in any other draft year…so if you get in the top 10 you’re getting a damn good prospect! (any one of them would likely move into our top 3 prospects)

JoeMX1825 wrote:

which would all be top 3 picks in any other draft year

Does saying this every year make it even more true?

tswoboda wrote:

Does saying this every year make it even more true?

I think last year’s draft was much much deeper than this one, but you are right. A top 3 pick in any draft would likely be a top 3 pick in any other year too.

tswoboda wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>JoeMX1825 wrote:</div>
which would all be top 3 picks in any other draft year

Does saying this every year make it even more true?

yeah, that didn’t make much sense did it…. I was just trying to say the top forwards are all good and after Celebrini, all pretty even…so if you’re picking 2nd or 10th you’re going to get a really good player with not much talent drop, even players selected 11-16 are looking good…

Just poking fun at the eternal prospect optimism

To be fair it’s not the exact same. I think last year it was the top 3 picks would be 1st overall in every other draft, and now this year it’s the top 5 forwards would be top 3 in every other draft… So do the math and I think that makes this year’s top 5 forwards all 1st overall in every other draft.

This is a hugely important draft for the Wild as I don’t expect them to be picking in sub-20 range for years to come…it appears they hit last year with Heidt and maybe Kumpalienan, but when you miss on your 1st rounders like it APPEARS they did with Stramel, it can set a team back a bit…(just look at Doug R’s missed 1st round picks) This year with the D prospects available, the Wild can get a solid foundational piece when this core is likely in their cup run timeframe and Spurgeon and Brodin are likely to age out…

I’m kind of a draft nut and pay attention to what scouts say about players and draft years and the 4 year draft class run of 2023 (Bedard/Mitchkov) 2024 (Celebrini/Eiserman) 2025 (Hagens/Misa) 2026 (McKenna) have been talked about and anticipated for years…it would be nice if we could get a high pick in one of these drafts…

You wonder if Chicago and San Jose planned their tanks/rebuilds to lineup with this run?

Here’s Adam Beckman’s likely best/last shot to turn some heads at the Wild and other NHL teams (to get traded) He’ll slot in for Hartman tonight and maybe the next few games… Let’s see how he responds…

Why on earth would Jimmy Snuggerud want to come back to the Gophers? Hope he has a big insurance policy…

Maybe he doesn’t want to go to the Blues. Wild should trade Adam Beckman for him straight up

Geez Snuggerud even came out and admitted he wants to be a Wild

Here’s what Snuggerud had to say from the team’s release. “I watched Brock Faber come back for his junior year and I feel like I can take the same path as Brock to the NHL, and help the Gophers win a national championship.”

big risk for a kid who’s clearly ready for the NHL imo…he should just stay 2 more years and then pick who he wants to sign with…

JoeMX1825 wrote:

Why on earth would Jimmy Snuggerud want to come back to the Gophers? Hope he has a big insurance policy…

Really. Go ask Sampo Ranta and Ben Meyers what they would do if they could relive their decision. The reality is, Snuggy is a VERY one dimensional player. See his output this season. He needed two BONFIDE NHL players on his line to produce last year. Sadly, when he was forced to create, forecheck, defend, he was exposed.

There was no decision and his dad could see that.

You mean his output of 21 goals each season.
Yeah he was terrible at world juniors playing against the best in the world at his age.

Comparing Ben Myers to Snuggerud is laughable at best.

Boldy good when he no thinkie!

Boldy is one of the most inaccurate passers on the team. Pi$$ missile is flying only a matter of time for him to pot one.

Freddy needs to write the Wild a check for his salary this season, he’s been stealing paychecks this season.. he’s just worthless out there…

JoeMX1825 wrote:

Freddy needs to write the Wild a check for his salary this season, he’s been stealing paychecks this season.. he’s just worthless out there…

Honestly, what do they do with him? He literally doesn’t do anything.

Chisholm never shoots on the PP, put Faber back out there…

Damn 4th line.

Honestly think Freddy just needs a reset.

Faber, my word when he gets some man fat he’s gunna be a beast.

One time, just once, we all deserve to see Ek go total viking on someone and drop the gloves.

basseyes wrote:

One time, just once, we all deserve to see Ek go total viking on someone and drop the gloves.

thankfully it wasn’t tonight, unlike Mathew, Brady Tkachuk is one bad mofo when dropping the gloves!

Faber got a good jab in on him

Not sure EK would have good technique in a real hockey fight but he would kick the crap out of a lot in a wrestling match.

Kaprizov was lucky he didnt get a penalty on that shorthanded chance. Looked like he hooked him to me, but I will take it.

wormdunker wrote:

The reality is, Snuggy is a VERY one dimensional player.

He has an NHL ready shot but I do agree, he’s one dimensional. He needs a set up man to be effective. He’s only 19 too, and needs to beef up some.

I think he only had 3 goals since January. Teams focus their defense on him and he’s not as effective.

Ripjiggen wrote:

You mean his output of 21 goals each season.
Yeah he was terrible at world juniors playing against the best in the world at his age.

Comparing Ben Myers to Snuggerud is laughable at best.

Game is played on 200′ of ice. Not just standing at the tops of the circle ripping shots. No doubt he has a world class shot for sure. However, in the NHL you have to have a complete game, unless you are Ovechkin. 21 NCAA goals is great, in fact he is the 16th best goal scorer in NCAA, is that spectacular? NO. It seems you think he is in the top 5 or 10? he is not. His assists? 13. Total Points he is closer to 50th in the NCAA. Is that dominating a level? He disappeared the last 1/3 of the season and barely showed up in the post season. From February on, he had 6 points (3g’s, 3a’s) in 12 games. Which indicates he may have been tired? Think NHL wants a kid that is gassed after a season half as long as the NHL?

Last year Jimmy had 21 goals and 29 assists, 50 points. A great year but he had a lot of secondary assists that happened because his line mates WERE NHL Caliber.

I think it is funny you are arguing a decision his NHL and professional hockey coach father helped him make. He is not ready for the NHL.

Logan Cooley is not a comparable for leaving early. Last year he had 22 goals and 38 assists. Those assists were mostly primaries. His goal scoring, scoring goals in many many different ways, was spectacular in nature. Great shot, spectacular one man efforts, goals scored in so many different ways.

The goal for these kids is not to creep into the NHL and have a 2way deal. A kid like Jimmy knows he has to make an impact when he enters.

And as an FYI, their last years Sampo had 19 goals (only 32 points) and Meyers had 17 (41 points) on a pretty poor Gophers teams. Neither having line mates as good as Jimmy has had. I think we all know Meyers was highly touted, but he has not panned out yet and I would be willing to be his experience is not what he was hoping for. would another year have helped. Yes. Sampo? Europe.

PS in the NHL he is not playing against competition his age.

Finally, some secondary scoring for the win rather than a bunch of mid-liners with their thumbs up their breezers waiting for KK to do it all. WTG Vinnie and damn I love Shaw. Just a freaking workman-like effort out there and they get it done.

basseyes wrote:

Faber got a good jab in on him

Yeah, Faber gave it to Tkachuk as good as he got. That head really snapped back there Brady. He felt that one. Tkachuk loves the gloves-on sucker punch in the middle of the scrum. You have to deal with him by having a guy always ready to punch him in the side of the head during every scrum and make sure he knows it’s coming.

JoeMX1825 wrote:

Freddy needs to write the Wild a check for his salary this season, he’s been stealing paychecks this season.. he’s just worthless out there…

How funny was it that Freddy was the one put in the box after that whole end-of-game scrum? Lapanta and Carter didn’t even think Freddy was on the ice at the time, which shows how freaking invisible he is out there.

wormdunker wrote:

His assists? 13.

wormdunker wrote:

and 29 assists

Pretty obvious stat right there. Last year he was on a championship caliber line and this year, no. He’s not a set up guy, he is a shoot first guy. Goals are exactly the same as last year but assists aren’t even remotely close. Another year in dinkytown will help him.

Undrafted 23 year old Ben Myers was highly touted yeah ok. Maybe here he was, but he was like any other undrafted college player elsewhere.

Blues are on record saying he would have went straight to NHL if he signed.

Fine with him coming back to sharpen his game, but comparing Ben Myers an undrafted college kid that was in his early 20’s to Snuggarud who is 19 and a first round pick is just dumb.

Sampo a third round pick is playing in Europe with the rest of the third and 4th round picks.