2022 MN WILD/NHL THREAD

I hope Eichel goes under the knife today and get that poor man on the road to recovery ASAP. Hope he can be up to full speed by the start of the Olympics.

If Eichel returns to form Vegas is going to be a even bigger road block to the Cup to everyone in the conference. Maybe that was the Wilds thinking when they made their run at him. I’m still glad they didn’t make that work. It’s a extremely high risk move.

If I’m BG I’m seeing what it would take to get Tuch away from them. Rask and Greenway?

Ice Cap wrote:

If Eichel returns to form Vegas is going to be a even bigger road block to the Cup to everyone in the conference. Maybe that was the Wilds thinking when they made their run at him. I’m still glad they didn’t make that work. It’s a extremely high risk move.

If I’m BG I’m seeing what it would take to get Tuch away from them. Rask and Greenway?

Buffalo won’t let him go, he’s exactly what they want for their rebuild (good young player under team control for many years) I’d seriously ask if they want Rask though…

Lol, Gabby “officially” retired today…

If Eichel gets back to his old self Vegas is going to be dang tough. The prospect they gave up is the #1 in their system and Tuch was sure a good player for them so Id say they paid a decent amount to get him. Rumor has it the Flames were offering Tkatchuk, but its not likely he would have resigned with Buffalo so that would have been a bad deal.
Hopefully Zuccs comes back soon and isnt out of shape and can return to form. Would be nice to reunite him with KK and they can get their mojo going.

Tkachuck was not offered up by the flames. Buffalo has since come out and said so.
Don’t see anything wrong with giving up prospects for established players. Prospects are just that prospects with no guarantee.

Found these Kulikov stats interesting.

xG: 69.31% (6.61-2.93)
Corsi: 57.28% (118-88)
Shot differential: +19
Goal differential: +4
High danger differential: +18

His 69.31% xGF% is an NHL BEST among ALL PLAYERS with at least 100 minutes of even strength ice time.

From a Wild fan persepctive, would we have been willing to give up Fiala, Rossi and a 1st & 2nd (that’s also assuming Buffalo would even want Fiala because he could basically sign a 1 year tender and leave as a UFA the following year) with Tuch, they have him locked up for 5 more years…

Maybe the more honest comparable Wild trade would be Ek, Rossi, 1st & 4th round picks…We would also need to clear almost another $5 in cap space…

We’ll see how Eichel’s surgery goes and if he can even play out his 5 year contract…If he can, then Vegas got an elite 1st line center for cheap, if not, they wil have cap issues for a LONG time…..

Ripjiggen wrote:

Tkachuck was not offered up by the flames. Buffalo has since come out and said so.
Don’t see anything wrong with giving up prospects for established players. Prospects are just that prospects with no guarantee.
Found these Kulikov stats interesting.

xG: 69.31% (6.61-2.93)
Corsi: 57.28% (118-88)
Shot differential: +19
Goal differential: +4
High danger differential: +18

His 69.31% xGF% is an NHL BEST among ALL PLAYERS with at least 100 minutes of even strength ice time.

That’s hilarious about the Tkachuk tweet. Weekesie is destroying his “insider” credibility by just making himself a pawn to teams and agents during negotiations.
Are you a fancy stats guy now? Love it.

I think the comparable trade from the Wild would have been Ek and Boldy + picks.
Rossi>Boldy>Krebs – Team control of Ek is the key and why BUF wouldn’t want Fiala.

Definitely not. I stole them off of twitter.
I am not even 100 percent sure which each stat means definitely don’t know how they calculate them. More so posting that as at least someone on twitter thinks he is playing well.

Ripjiggen wrote:

Definitely not. I stole them off of twitter.
I am not even 100 percent sure which each stat means definitely don’t know how they calculate them. More so posting that as at least someone on twitter thinks he is playing well.

LOL since TSWOBODA has the same avitar here as JFRESH does on Twitter we know who the analytics guy is around here HMMM!?

Not sure anybody said Kulikov wasn’t playing well, I mentioned that I thought Merrill was terrible and that Kulikov and Addson should be our 4th pair moving forward…

I don’t often feel sorry for a millionaire pro athletes, but I feel sorry for Alex Tuch. Buffalo despite this trade is several seasons away from seeing results even if everything goes well.

To Joe’s point above, no, I don’t believe the wild would have been better off giving up all the players and draft picks that would have been required to get Eichel. Due to years of botched draft picks we are just beginning to restock the cupboards. Vegas despite their short tenure in the league is way ahead of us as far as the amount of talent they have both on roster and in the pipeline.

Addison sent to Iowa. Kind of expected that but disappointed for him.
Joe, I think its just that people are shocked at his numbers. I dont think any of us knew much of anything about him and collectively we thought our D was going to take a big step back. I know I for one did.
Comparing the analytics to the guys we added to those we lost we are significantly better. Soucy, Cole etc are far worse than the new guys we got this year comparatively.

TheFamousGrouse wrote:

Vegas despite their short tenure in the league is way ahead of us as far as the amount of talent they have both on roster and in the pipeline.

I dont think the latter is true anymore. Their first season they had stockpiled a lot of prospects and had a lot of draft picks, but since they were so successful they have been jettisoning so many of their prospects they dont have much left. Krebs was their #1 prospect and he would be like the 4th or 5th on the Wild.

Sheesh, Cody McLeod is still with the Iowa Wild? Rossi is a PPG player. Was out a while with an illness so he might not be back to 100% yet.

gotcha on Kulikov, I didn’t know anything about him before this season either, he’s played well for a 3rd pair D. Vegas only has about 3-4 good prospects left in their system, 2 of them were just taken in the last draft, Brendan Brisson who plays for Michigan is probably their top prospect now…Vegas will have some tough decisions this offseason when all of their players get back and they are like $20 million over the cap, they have 5-6 good RFA’s to re-sign (Hague, Kolesar) that will likely command decent raises they likely won’t be able to afford, I’d love to see the Wild pluck Hague off that roster!

CaptainMusky wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>TheFamousGrouse wrote:</div>
Vegas despite their short tenure in the league is way ahead of us as far as the amount of talent they have both on roster and in the pipeline.

I dont think the latter is true anymore. Their first season they had stockpiled a lot of prospects and had a lot of draft picks, but since they were so successful they have been jettisoning so many of their prospects they dont have much left. Krebs was their #1 prospect and he would be like the 4th or 5th on the Wild.

I’m pretty sure Grouse was being sarcastic about the pipeline thing. At least I hope so

McLeod wear’s the C in Iowa

JFresh copied me But for real, that’s the most ridiculous look of an NHL player I’ve ever seen.

Ripjiggen wrote:

I am not even 100 percent sure which each stat means definitely don’t know how they calculate them.

I kinda figured that lol.

CaptainMusky wrote:

Addison sent to Iowa.

And now I’m sad

JoeMX1825 wrote:

Brendan Brisson who plays for Michigan is probably their top prospect now

He’s also Eichel’s agent’s kid. He might just be their first big name prospect to actually make it to the VGK roster.

Jesper Wallstedt had a shutout today and is 7-4 with a 1.81gaa and a 92% save percentage in the Swedish Elite league (3rd best in the world) as an 18 year old which is just unheard of!

It will be fun to see what he does at the WJC, future Wild starter…

JoeMX1825 wrote:

Jesper Wallstedt had a shutout today and is 7-4 with a 1.81gaa and a 92% save percentage in the Swedish Elite league (3rd best in the world) as an 18 year old which is just unheard of!

It will be fun to see what he does at the WJC, future Wild starter…

He had a real clunker early on in the season otherwise his stats would be even better. That would be great to have a stud goalie.

CaptainMusky wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>JoeMX1825 wrote:</div>
Jesper Wallstedt had a shutout today and is 7-4 with a 1.81gaa and a 92% save percentage in the Swedish Elite league (3rd best in the world) as an 18 year old which is just unheard of!

It will be fun to see what he does at the WJC, future Wild starter…

He had a real clunker early on in the season otherwise his stats would be even better. That would be great to have a stud goalie.

he’s only let more than 2 goals a game once sofar this season, his team is terrible offensively so he gets no scoring help…

TheFamousGrouse wrote:
Vegas despite their short tenure in the league is way ahead of us as far as the amount of talent they have both on roster and in the pipeline.

And 90 percent of the other NHL teams.

CaptainMusky wrote:

I dont think the latter is true anymore. Their first season they had stockpiled a lot of prospects and had a lot of draft picks, but since they were so successful they have been jettisoning so many of their prospects they dont have much left.

Yes, not so much the pipeline anymore, I didn’t realize Krebs was moved up to the big club this season, he is referred to as a “prospect” in some reports of the trade that I read. But the point is they had the roster depth to give up a vet player like Tuch and a promising Krebs to get Eichel. I wish we were in that same place where I could see us giving up something like a JEEK/Rossi for an Eichel and feeling like we still had enough talent left to come out a better team.

Ripjiggen wrote:

And 90 percent of the other NHL teams.

Little bit of a Debbie Downer there, wouldn’t you say? So you’re saying the Wild are a 4th or 5th WORST team in the league and 28 teams have better prospect pools than the Wild?

No Vegas is ahead of 90 percent of teams. Not even sure why we are comparing the wild to Vegas in the first place outside of the Eichel deal but you calling me a debbie downer gave me a chuckle.😂

Sounds like Eichel thought he was going to be in Minnesota this past summer.

CaptainMusky wrote:

Sheesh, Cody McLeod is still with the Iowa Wild? Rossi is a PPG player. Was out a while with an illness so he might not be back to 100% yet.

Seems a pattern is emerging with Rossi. Be a shame if illness shadows this kid consistently. I know people who are like that. Just never seem to stay healthy for any extended period of time.

Without knowing how Eichel is going to recover after his surgery it’s hard to say who won in this deal. I’ll give Buffalo the early lead as they got rid of a player who was never going to skate for them again and got some assets in return that will give them almost instant return.

Vegas took all the risk here. I think the Wild won by not winning this deal.

I’m pretty sure Rossi played most if not all of his games in junior hockey, I would put ZERO weight behind him getting covid and then 18 months later getting a stomach bug for a few days as somehow equating him to being an injury risk…

JoeMX1825 wrote:

I’m pretty sure Rossi played most if not all of his games in junior hockey, I would put ZERO weight behind him getting covid and then 18 months later getting a stomach bug for a few days as somehow equating him to being an injury risk…

No he got sick twice now… I’m calling bust.

Anyone watch the Leafs game last night? Ended with 4-3 OT powerplay that was some of the most dominant hockey I’ve seen all year. Toronto put 4 forwards and 0 defensemen on the ice that equated to $40m AAV and turns out you CAN buy a win. It was a 2 minute grade-A shooting gallery until they buried a 1 timer – other coaches should be taking notes of the 4F and no D.

JoeMX1825 wrote:

I’m pretty sure Rossi played most if not all of his games in junior hockey, I would put ZERO weight behind him getting covid and then 18 months later getting a stomach bug for a few days as somehow equating him to being an injury risk…

Just a observation Joe nothing more.

Ripjiggen wrote:

Sounds like Eichel thought he was going to be in Minnesota this past summer.

First 2 teams out of his mouth were Minnesota and COLORADO. Like how the he!l would Colorado work if they were refusing to retain salary? That may have been prior to Landeskog re-signing or maybe it had Rantanen going to Buffalo. Either way that was a surprising team to hear was really close to making a deal.