2022 MN WILD/NHL THREAD

  • CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22841
    #2069906

    I also would be a little nervous about BG. Safe sport is not going to sweep those allegations under the rug. They as in the Pitt organization and those involved will probably be next on the list.

    At this point I am not overly worried about BG its just a formality since it governs all USA Hockey. The other investigation went nowhere I believe, at least I havent heard anything on it in months.

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8540
    #2069909

    I also would be a little nervous about BG. Safe sport is not going to sweep those allegations under the rug. They as in the Pitt organization and those involved will probably be next on the list.

    Definitely, that’s the only reason I watched the Blackhawks deal today? The Penguins situation is similar but different. Billy G immediately acknowledged he knew about it and passed the info along to his superior… His superior who mysteriously resigned about a year ago. whistling

    I skimmed the official Blackhawks report and it looks like everyone there just kept pleading ignorance and did their best to keep it swept under the rug for 10 year. Quenneville is really painted as a villain in the report.

    So what happens with Bowman and USA hockey now? Does Billy G get promoted to GM or what?

    Why is Evason splitting up the best line from last game?

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11605
    #2069913

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Ripjiggen wrote:</div>
    I also would be a little nervous about BG. Safe sport is not going to sweep those allegations under the rug. They as in the Pitt organization and those involved will probably be next on the list.

    At this point I am not overly worried about BG its just a formality since it governs all USA Hockey. The other investigation went nowhere I believe, at least I havent heard anything on it in months.

    Went nowhere just like the internal investigation of the Hawks. Wasn’t till now that heads started to roll after safe sport got involved.

    Not sure why he split up 4th line. More faith in Bjugstad than Pitlick at this point I’m guessing.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22841
    #2069915

    Went nowhere just like the internal investigation of the Hawks. Wasn’t till now that heads started to roll after safe sport got involved.

    Not sure why he split up 4th line. More faith in Bjugstad than Pitlick at this point I’m guessing.

    I thought this Jenner thing was started long ago and SafeSport just got started?
    It certainly is damning of Q that’s for sure. I read some of the report and its just disgusting, but not at all surprising that crap like this happens which is horrible. I mean, we had those gymnasts nothing should surprise us and the fact that their mothers watched most of those atrocious acts! Disgusting.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17898
    #2069916

    My guess is that USA Hockey will NOT want any press coverage/spotlight on Bowman while over in the Olympics, so he’ll soon get the boot which probably means GMBG will get the top job…

    As we all know, lines on paper before the game mean absolutely nothing as Deano will likly make changes after a few shifts if needed…

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11605
    #2069917

    It was alleged a while ago. Safesport got involved in early Aug at the request of the player. My guess is because Bowman was US GM and the player thought the investigation was going nowhere very slowly. There independent investigation is what was released by Jenner and guessing safe sport has their own investigation going as well. At least I think that is what is happening at the moment.
    Agree the BG situation is different but also has seemed to brushed under the rug.

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8540
    #2069921

    I don’t think Bowman was even under investigation from SafeSport, at least it was never confirmed. There was a request to suspend him from the Olympics which was denied, and there was a request to SafeSport to investigate him but never confirmed anything happened with it. Everything that was released today has nothing to do with SafeSport – unrelated and private investigation. With Bill G, it’s confirmed that SafeSport has an open investigation.

    Everyone in the Blackhawks deal basically denied knowing anything about that situation until today. Billy G acknowledged the Penguins situation immediately and released a statement that straight up called BS and said he did his job.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11605
    #2069926

    You are probably correct TSW..Honestly it is all kind of hard to follow. Safe sport did ask US committe to suspend Bowman until the investigation was complete. Either way this is bad for Bowman and the Hawks.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22841
    #2069933

    You are probably correct TSW..Honestly it is all kind of hard to follow. Safe sport did ask US committe to suspend Bowman until the investigation was complete. Either way this is bad for Bowman and the Hawks.

    How about Q and GM C in Winnipeg? I dont think this goes well for either of them either? NHL fines the Blackhawks $2M for mishandling this? Is that even significant?

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11605
    #2069935

    Sounds like C in Winnipeg did what he was supposed tooand didn’t lie during the investigation. Q I am not sure about yet. This thing is going to get messy for sure. I agree 2 mill is a drop in the bucket for the Danny and the Hawks.

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8540
    #2069936

    How about Q and GM C in Winnipeg? I dont think this goes well for either of them either? NHL fines the Blackhawks $2M for mishandling this? Is that even significant?

    The report makes Q look like a donkey. Multiple mentions that he didn’t want to mess up the chemistry during playoffs so wanted to keep it quiet. He and former President of HO John McDonaugh were painted as the chief villains. There’s very little mention of Cheveldayoff in the report other than the fact that he was there and part of the staff.

    $2m is a joke, it’s nothing. The Coyotes lost a 1st rounder for interviewing kids too early. Draft picks is how you penalize teams.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22841
    #2069942

    $2m is a joke, it’s nothing. The Coyotes lost a 1st rounder for interviewing kids too early. Draft picks is how you penalize teams.

    I thought I read somewhere that Cheveldayoff was included in some of the Q stuff, but maybe misread it. My twitter feed was going bonkers.
    I agree they should lose draft picks or something over this too. This isnt about money its about precedence. This is FAR worse than what AZ did and my son’s kid was one of the kids they tested, who unfortunately was drafted by Chicago last year sheesh.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17898
    #2069943

    After players like Toews and others denied they ever knew about it and then to hear that all of the players most likely did know about it and there were known inside jokes made by the players about the player who was assaulted…yikes…

    This has the potential to blow up big time, especially if the victim player comes forward and starts talking about it more and contradicting current players…

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22841
    #2069944

    This has the potential to blow up big time, especially if the victim player comes forward and starts talking about it more and contradicting current players…

    Exactly! I didnt read the whole thing, but I guess you can figure out exactly who John Doe is by connecting dots. They gave too much information about him and those that closely follow the team would be able to figure it out.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17898
    #2069949

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>JoeMX1825 wrote:</div>
    This has the potential to blow up big time, especially if the victim player comes forward and starts talking about it more and contradicting current players…

    Exactly! I didnt read the whole thing, but I guess you can figure out exactly who John Doe is by connecting dots. They gave too much information about him and those that closely follow the team would be able to figure it out.

    I found that pretty disturbing and most likely intentional…

    From the report:

    John Doe was a twenty-year-old hockey player for the Blackhawks’ minor league affiliate team. He was called up to Chicago during the 2010 playoffs to serve as a “Black Ace,” a prospect player who could be available to play for the Blackhawks if needed.

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8540
    #2069954

    This is FAR worse than what AZ did and my son’s kid was one of the kids they tested, who unfortunately was drafted by Chicago last year sheesh.

    Excuse me??

    LOL I know what you meant. I assume that was Kaiser?

    This has the potential to blow up big time

    It just blew up today. GM and VP of hockey ops fired. Another GM and Head Coach meeting with Gary. Players are not going to be punished for this.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22841
    #2069957

    Excuse me??
    LOL I know what you meant. I assume that was Kaiser?

    Yeah fragmented sentences are my specialty LOL.
    Correct. Great kid. Go fishing with him, his dad and a group of other guys in Canada except for the last 2 years.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17898
    #2069967

    It will get alot bigger if superstars Kane and Toews knew about it and participated in harassing the victim…

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8540
    #2069968

    It will get alot bigger if superstars Kane and Toews knew about it and participated in harassing the victim…

    The big tell all article was released this summer. The official investigation was made public today. Heads have rolled. The NHL wants this done and over with, and after the meetings with Q and Chevy it will be over. Kane and Toews were 21 years old at the time.

    Bowman has stepped down as Team USA GM.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17898
    #2069970

    It was ALL speculation until today, outside of the home markets and interested hockey fans, NOBODY knows who the Coach/GM/Director of player Dev are, but if the victim starts talking and superstar names are mentioned as having some involvement in harassment or coverup AFTER the fact, you can bet the national media will run with it… especially after the US Gymnastics case…

    Yes, Betman will want it quieted down asap, but isn’t that to some degree what the Blackhawks did in the first place?

    Ice Cap
    Posts: 2163
    #2069974

    Ugh… How about people of all persuasions just keep their paws off people who don’t want them on them. Don’t drink if you have problems controlling your urges and get some help.

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8540
    #2069979

    Ugh… How about people of all persuasions just keep their paws off people who don’t want them on them. Don’t drink if you have problems controlling your urges and get some help.

    Ahhhh I think you’re down playing this situation. This guy was convicted and did time for sexually assaulting a 16 year old that he coached.

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11038
    #2070028

    Oh man….Hope Sturm is ok. A Dumba slapper to the seeds…..That could cause some pretty bad damage.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11605
    #2070032

    And stone hands with a sick saucer for the goal. coffee

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11038
    #2070033

    John Merrill is apparently playing for Vancouver tonight…..Yikes. Great saves by Talbot on two awful plays by Merrill.

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8540
    #2070034

    And stone hands with a sick saucer for the goal. coffee

    If there’s a weak spot in his game it’s passing. But that was beautiful.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17898
    #2070035

    What’s the old saying about sun and a dogs butt?

    J/k – it was a sweet saucer!

    It’s inexcusable for our PP to be this bad! They look like they have no idea what to do again..just like during last year’s dreadful streak…

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8540
    #2070038

    It’s inexcusable for our PP to be this bad! They look like they have no idea what to do again..just like during last year’s dreadful streak…

    First group all look scared to let it rip. They need more fans there yelling SHHOOOOOOT

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17898
    #2070040

    I need to eat a bit of crow on Bjugstad, I thought he was done but he’s really impressed sofar this season, looks rejuvenated!

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8540
    #2070042

    Tough “break” on that kill. They were decent but couldn’t get a clear with only 3 sticks.

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