So do the Avs finish off Edmonton in 4 or will the Oilers actually won one for the home fans so they can then be flattened back in Colorado in game 5?
I was thinking this series would have been more competitive thus far. I guess and 8 – 6 game 1 is competitive, but it wasnt a game last night.
Give me Raty over Wahlstrom 100% – Wahlstrom hasn’t done anything remarkable since the spinorama goal when he was 8. OK so maybe he was very good in juniors but he hasn’t had a single good professional season. I get Ryan Donato, who was the big get in the Coyle trade, vibes from him.
he had a great rookie year (12 goals in 44 games) then got locked in the Trotz doghouse this cluster F of a season for the Isls, the kid is a shooter and a scorer, I think he’d fit in well with Boldy and Rossi and for sure the powerplay as a right hand shot. Raty had a good 10 game stretch this season and put up goals and points, but against what type of competition? He still hasn’t done anything on the World Stage Tournaments (if even make the teams). He’s too much of a maybe boom, likely bust prospect imo….
Yeah I’m obviously not high on Wahlstrom. Being able to finish, like Donato, just isn’t enough unless you can do it for 30-40 goals a year. And that’s all there is to his game imo. That’s why he didn’t get the playing time under Trotz just like Donato never got the playing time from about 5 different coaches now. Obviously he’s only 22 so still room for development but just seems like a kid that got rushed to the NHL and now has a lower ceiling. Kinda similar to Jost actually (NOT in playing style) and they got Jost for an undrafted pending UFA that’s getting healthy scratched (no offense to Nico Sturm).
Raty is definitely a polarizing prospect but there’s a reason he was once projected as #1OA – there’s a lot of skill and potential there. Liiga is no slouch so I’m not sure what your point is there – he had similar point production to Anton Lundell in his D+1 season. And he’ll be in the AHL next season, put up 4 points in 6 playoff games there this year as a 19YO center.
U20 and U18 World Juniors are the most overrated scouting tools – It’s why Slafkofski’s going to get wayyy over drafted.
U20 & U18 tourney’s over rated??? Its the best vs the best for that age group, it’s likely the best scouting tourneys that exists…. There’s a reason EVERY scout attends them…
My point about who Raty played against in Liiga was I wasn’t sure if he was playing against good teams or the bottom feeders of the league when he went on his torrid goal/point stretch of 10 or so games this season that boosted his stats…
I’m well aware of his 16/17 year old production that started all the hype, i’m also aware he wasnt good enough to make the U20 team when he should have been the country’s best player… didnt Judd pass on him twice?
I want him because we dont have any Finns on the roster anymore. We need to bring back Finnesota.
U20 & U18 tourney’s over rated??? Its the best vs the best for that age group, it’s likely the best scouting tourneys that exists…. There’s a reason EVERY scout attends them…
Yeah they attend them because every prospect from every league around the world is there. But it’s well documented by many scouts that fans put way too much stock in those tournaments vs. how players do during their regular seasons.
Matt Boldy didn’t make the WJC Team after his draft. Oh and Judd Bracket passed on him too and then Billy G tried to trade him. Weird facts to hold against a prospect. Obviously like I said Raty’s a polarizing prospect. Love that we’re charging on towards 250 pages over a couple prospects in the Islander’s system lol 
I just prefer Wahlstrom because he’s proven, he’s a natural goal scorer, has size and is right handed with a bomb of a 1 timer (pretty much everything we need)… Raty has all of the tools, I hoped we could have got him or Stankoven with our 2nd round pick last year…
I’m dying not having any Wild news to talk about…
The Rangers are a friggin good team!
I gotta give props to Adam Fox, I knew he was good, but I didnt know he was this good! Dude is so smart out there, with or without the puck…
We are talking about Raty? Man off season needs to start before we lose our marbles. 
The Rangers are a friggin good team!
Really, really good.
Tampa finally showing how important missing Point is… he’s the engine of that team…
So it appears Dr Jeckyll is in net for the Oilers tonight sofar…
Damn, Rangers had their chance to put a nail in the coffin… blew it on the pk
For the majority of that game we had the goalie duel that we were expecting. Vasy hasnt been his same old self and the Rangers definitely blew the chance because of the penalties.
How will Mike Smith eventually blow this game #4???
King Leon is willing the Oilers on 1/2 a leg…
Avs sweep to the finals, but lose yet another player (Cogliano)
The Oilers deserve better than Mike Smith in net… Their GM gambled and lost…
Will be fun to see the Avs shoot on either Russian goalie in the finals…
Don’t think I’ve seen a more gutsy effort by a athlete than by Leon Draisaitl last night. It was agonizing just to watch him and he still managed to stay effective! Wow!
It will be interesting to hear what Leon was all playing through. The Avs were obviously targeting the whole series knowing he was dinged up. Batman (McDavid) didnt have his Robin (Draisaitl) and that is what really did the Oilers in. I didnt give them much chance regardless in this series because the Avs are just a wagon of a team. Injuries are piling up however. Think TB gets another one to make that a series?
At least some of the New Jersey sports media think the Devils are in fireat place when it comes to being Fiala’s likely destination.
Even more interesting is there doesn’t seem to be a lot of “Is he with it?” Hand wringing about giving up the #2 pick or next year’s R1 pick.
Do the Wild gamble that even with Fiala New Jersey will still be bottom of the league and produce a high first-round pic next year? It would be a really crappy deal to trade away from the number two overall pick and end up with a pic in the upper teens or low 20s next year.
That Avs-Oilers game was just a roller coaster of rushes one way and then the other. I stepped away for 15 minutes and missed 3 goals and the lead change. Not what you’re used to in a Conference finals but pretty entertaining!
Id do next year’s R1 and Holtz for Fiala. Just dont know if NJ wants to give up on Holtz, but they would have an instant top 6 forward where Holtz might take a bit. Im sure the R1 next year will be much lower, but the draft is stacked with talent so Id take my chances.
That’d be a haul for Kevin, would love to see that. Realistically though I’m thinking it’s one or the other… if they get Holtz or similar level prospect then it’s a lower pick – if they get a 1st then it’s a lower end prospect.
I wonder what package it would take to get the #2 OA – Fiala, Talbot, and #24 OA maybe?? Grab Cooley and good chance they’re set down the middle for 10 years.
Id take next year’s R2 and Holtz then. I just dont see the Devils parting with #2, but I proposed trading Talbot earlier along with Fiala. The Devils need goaltending help too. That would free up space to sign Fleury and then hopefully find a journeyman backup.
I don’t see New Jersey giving up any combination of Holtz and a 1st round pick…I’ve heard rumblings that the Wild could want one of thier young/cheap backup goalies, so I think a Fiala + Talbot for Holtz and a 2nd rounder and maybe a wildcard prospect would be a great deal for the Wild. It solves 2 things, it gets exactly the type of top prospect the Wild needs (Right hand shot Winger who’s a sniper) who’s just starting his 3 year ELC, it allows GMBG to resign Flower by unloading Talbot and gets us a cheap backup goalie to span the next 1-2 years until Wallstedt is ready. The Wild would then have 3 2nd round picks, this gives them more than enough ammo to move way up in the 1st round with their own #24 pick or potentially even gets them an extra late 1st round pick if they pool their 2nds together….I’d avoid getting their 2023 1st, I think the Devils improve quite a bit next season…
I’ve been watching Holtz for years and years, the kid is the real deal, he’s about the only ELC prospect I’d be happy with without getting a 1st back in a trade for Fiala. I think he could work perfectly with Boldy and then eventually move up to play with Kaprizov when Zuccy calls it quits…
Here’s a video showing some of his AHL goals this year, the 2nd one they show is exactly what the Wild needs…
I found an article containing 3 Devils & Fiala trade proposals that make alot of sense (although it appears it was done BEFORE the Devils won the #2 pick)
I think adding Talbot could make Proposal #1 work even with the #2 overall pick
Trade proposal #2 is more in line with what I was thinking of in terms of a deal that would work…
Proposl #1
DEVILS GET
KEVIN FIALA
WILD GET
2022 1ST-ROUND PICK
FABIAN ZETTERLUND
Proposal #2
DEVILS GET
KEVIN FIALA
RYAN O’ROURKE
WILD GET
ALEX HOLTZ
REILLY WALSH
JESPER BOQVIST
2022 2ND-ROUND PICK
Proposal #3
DEVILS GET
KEVIN FIALA
DMITRY KULIKOV
WILD GET
PAVEL ZACHA
TY SMITH
JESPER BOQVIST
MULTIPLE 2nd & 3rd round DRAFT PICKS
I like #2
I like #2
who do you take at #2 then? Is that player better than Holtz? Slokofsky is a power forward, but nowhere near the scorer Holtz is… Cooley and Savoi are both good center prospects, but are also on the small side…(Cooley would be the obvious choice for the Wild at #2) but if you dont sign him at the reduced 2 year ELC after his first 2 years in the NCAA (no matter if he’s ready or not) then there’s the worry about him waiting and becoming a UFA…
Most agree that Holtz is ready for the NHL NOW, he put in 50+ games in the AHL last season…it would be awesome to plug him right into Fiala’s spot and play him with Rossi & Boldy…see what the kids can do together..
He meant #2 trade proposal.
But I’m here for speculating on the #2 OA pick that we’ll never get. I want Cooley 100% – or obviously Wright if Montreal goes full crazy and takes Slaf #1. Wright and Cooley are the top 2 forwards IMO – Savoie is a notch below and Slaf is a wild card, more boom/bust than the other 3. I still see Savoie going between 5-10.
Yeah, I meant the trade proposal #2. #3 is quite the haul though, but I know nothing about those guys.
He meant #2 trade proposal.
But I’m here for speculating on the #2 OA pick that we’ll never get. I want Cooley 100% – or obviously Wright if Montreal goes full crazy and takes Slaf #1. Wright and Cooley are the top 2 forwards IMO – Savoie is a notch below and Slaf is a wild card, more boom/bust than the other 3. I still see Savoie going between 5-10.
ok, gotcha…yes I agree with everything you said regarding Wright and Cooley…Normally i’d say no chance the #2 pick is in play, but with the uncertainty of no surething superstars and the fact that the Devils are stacked with 2 x #1 overall pick Centers under 23 years old I think they could see more value in a player in his prime (Fiala) vs taking another prospect likely 1-3 years away…
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