2022 MN WILD/NHL THREAD

  • CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22846
    #2124974

    Well my Toronto and Nashville picks failed in my bracket, but the rest I have correct so I’m 6 for 8 in round one. Had to sweat it out in game 7 OT with Dallas and Calgary because I picked the Flames to win the Stanley Cup. WHEW

    Your board would have been better than a ton of people if Nashville would have pulled off that shocker.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17898
    #2124978

    Here’s my predictions before the Playoffs started…:

    Round 1:
    Avs over Preds in 6
    Wild over Blues in 6
    Flames over Stars in 4
    Oilers over Kings in 6
    Panthers over Capitals in 4
    Lightning over Leafs in 6
    Canes over Bruins in 5
    Rangers over Penguins in 7

    Round 2:
    Wild over Avs in 7
    Flames over Oilers in 5
    Panthers over Lightning in 7
    Rangers over Canes in 7

    Round 3:
    Wild over Flames in 7
    Panthers over Rangers in 6

    Finals:
    Panthers over Wild in 6

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    My homer Wild pick is going to kill my board…

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17476
    #2124983

    My homer Wild pick is going to kill my board…

    Haha, yep. Other than that your picks are darn good.

    Ice Cap
    Posts: 2163
    #2124992

    We all knew Fiala was gone when BG started handing out extensions when there was really no need to at the time. Greenway, Merrill then Goligoaski (still can’t figure that one out) gentlemen’s agreement or not it’s all about money right now and squeezing the most out or every buck and his signing is a waste of money imo. Then take on Jost salary. Prove it or not BG had no intention of signing Fiala from the get go.

    I wish that kid the best of luck wherever he winds up and I won’t lie I won’t mind if the day comes he gets his comeupance on BG and Evason.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22846
    #2124995

    My board is toast but that’s what I get.
    Round 1:
    Avs over Preds in 5
    Wild over Blues in 7
    Flames over Stars in 6
    Kings over Oilers in 5
    Panthers over Capitals in 4
    Leafs over Lightning in 6
    Canes over Bruins in 6
    Rangers over Penguins in 5
    Round 2:
    Wild over Avs in 7
    Flames over Kings in 5
    Panthers over Leafs in 7
    Rangers over Canes in 7

    Round 3:
    Wild over Flames in 6
    Panthers over Rangers in 6

    Finals:
    Wild over Panthers in 6

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8540
    #2124998

    What page are the boards on? I think I went all upsets in the East so not doing so hot over there crazy Wild did me dirty in the West

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22846
    #2125004

    What page are the boards on? I think I went all upsets in the East so not doing so hot over there Wild did me dirty in the West

    Mine was on 197 or 198 I think, but I was later to the party

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8540
    #2125025

    Going full homer…
    Round 1:
    Avs in 3
    Wild in 7
    Flames in 6
    Oilers in 5
    Caps in 6
    Bolts in 7
    Bruins in 7
    Penguins in 6

    The only prediction I feel confident about is the Bolts/Leafs going to game 7 and it being the most talked about game of the entire playoffs.

    4/8 is… Not Great! But I’m taking double points for the Bolts game 7 and Avs in 3

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11609
    #2125030

    We all knew Fiala was gone when BG started handing out extensions when there was really no need to at the time. Greenway, Merrill then Goligoaski (still can’t figure that one out) gentlemen’s agreement or not it’s all about money right now and squeezing the most out or every buck and his signing is a waste of money imo. Then take on Jost salary. Prove it or not BG had no intention of signing Fiala from the get go.

    I wish that kid the best of luck wherever he winds up and I won’t lie I won’t mind if the day comes he gets his comeupance on BG and Evason.

    It is what it is. They knew they couldn’t afford him either way so why sit back and let that hostage situation unfold. See what the offers are but there are some big time FA’s and RFA’s this summer for him to contend with as well.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17898
    #2125074

    It sucks watching other teams score powerplay goals… we have ZERO excuses with talent like Kaprizov and Zuccarello…

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17898
    #2125075

    Its going to be funny watching O’Reilly trying to skate with MacKinnon all series…

    I’ll make fun of his ugly as sin skating, but the dude has an ELITE set of hands and hockey smarts that more than make up for it… sweet goal after a rare Makar turnover…

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11038
    #2125086

    I heard BG saying he wants to resign Fleury. I really think this would be one of the few mistakes he has made so far if he does resign him. I’m not blaming him for the playoff loss, but BG has a bloated view of him from his time with the Pens. He’s not that goalie anymore. He wasn’t anything more than average if that for us this season. I think that money should be spent elsewhere.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17898
    #2125088

    I heard BG saying he wants to resign Fleury. I really think this would be one of the few mistakes he has made so far if he does resign him. I’m not blaming him for the playoff loss, but BG has a bloated view of him from his time with the Pens. He’s not that goalie anymore. He wasn’t anything more than average if that for us this season. I think that money should be spent elsewhere.

    he won the Vezina last season, was dumped to a terrible Chicago team to clear capspace, won like 9 of his 11 starts with the Wild to end the regular season and then went 2-2 in the playoffs for a team that gave up a tons of pp goals all series on 2nd & 3rd chances.

    Fleury is fine, I hope we can sign him for 2 more years, trade Talbot…

    Justin riegel
    Posts: 936
    #2125091

    Here is mine without watching the Eastern conference much this year and going the homer route:

    Avs over Preds in 4
    Wild over Blues in 7
    Flames over Stars in 5
    Oilers over Kings in 7
    Panthers over Capitals in 6
    Lightning over Leafs in 7
    Bruins over Cains in 7
    Rangers over Penguins in 6

    Round 2:
    Wild over Avs in 7
    Flames over Oilers in 5
    Lightning Over Panthers in 7
    Rangers over Bruins in 7

    Round 3:
    Wild over Flames in 6
    Rangers over Lightning in 6

    Finals:
    Wild over Rangers in 5

    6 out of 8 but my final looks not good

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11609
    #2125094

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>mahtofire14 wrote:</div>
    I heard BG saying he wants to resign Fleury. I really think this would be one of the few mistakes he has made so far if he does resign him. I’m not blaming him for the playoff loss, but BG has a bloated view of him from his time with the Pens. He’s not that goalie anymore. He wasn’t anything more than average if that for us this season. I think that money should be spent elsewhere.

    he won the Vezina last season, was dumped to a terrible Chicago team to clear capspace, won like 9 of his 11 starts with the Wild to end the regular season and then went 2-2 in the playoffs for a team that gave up a tons of pp goals all series on 2nd & 3rd chances.

    Fleury is fine, I hope we can sign him for 2 more years, trade Talbot…

    Same same at this point…Cam was also average. Neither is going into a playoff series and thinking that you dominate in that department in the west. Honestly not many teams in the west can say that. Maybe Calgary.

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8540
    #2125124

    The goalie tandem was very good after the trade deadline, so it makes sense why they’d want to run it back. The concern is when you look at the entire seasons of Talbot and Fleury, both were well below average starters last season and both are on the wrong side of 35. You also run into the same situation at playoffs next year where if you have 2 goalies, you really have none.

    I’m not saying they’ll be bad, they were actually very good together, just that there’s plenty of reason for caution. Not really sure how they could do better starting from scratch either. Honestly though it doesn’t feel like Flower really wants to sign here anyway. Most of the chatter has him going back to Pittsburgh which makes a ton of sense.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17898
    #2125127

    Fleury to Pittsburgh makes sense from a personal level for him, but not from a hockey level…He likely has 1-2 years left in his career, Pittsburgh likely isn’t going to retain Malkin or LeTang and with Crosby are another year older and at the age where you typically start to see deminishing production… They will need to start focusing on a rebuild as they have ZERO prospects in their pool…

    Looking at the rest of the Playoff teams, outside of the Wild, they are all pretty much set in goal (unless the Avs don’t win the cup and want to move away from Keumper and try Fleury for a year) Fleury on a 2 year deal with the Wild makes the most sense as he can also mentor Wallstedt in year 2.

    I also heard that if they kept both Fleury and Talbot they could hang onto Talbot until the trade deadline and trade him for a good asset and roll with Fleury for the playoffs with Wallstedt as an injury backup..

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11660
    #2125128

    Same same at this point…Cam was also average. Neither is going into a playoff series and thinking that you dominate in that department in the west. Honestly not many teams in the west can say that. Maybe Calgary.

    We’re going to find out. Calgary needs to put a crimp in the all-offense-all-the-time Oilers. If the make the Greasers play any defense at all it’ll be over.

    Talk about lucky, all these teams in the weak west. Would any of these teams have survived R1 if the had to play an opponent from any other division?

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8540
    #2125135

    Fleury to Pittsburgh makes sense from a personal level for him, but not from a hockey level…He likely has 1-2 years left in his career, Pittsburgh likely isn’t going to retain Malkin or LeTang and with Crosby are another year older and at the age where you typically start to see deminishing production… They will need to start focusing on a rebuild as they have ZERO prospects in their pool…

    I can’t imagine they let all of Malkin, Letang, and Rust walk but not sure what any of that has to do with Fleury anyway. Either way they still have Sid and only have Jarry under contract next year – they learned this playoffs how important goalie depth is. Wild can offer Flower over the Pens is more playing time but he just didn’t seem overly interested in his exit presser.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17898
    #2125138

    I was just thinking if Fleury wants a good shot at the cup (as the starter) in his last few years. I don’t think the Penguins can realistically offer that with how stacked the East is for the next 3-4 years..but I guess if they want to ride the Crosby/Malkin/LeTang train into the ground until it crashes and burns, Malkin and LeTang are likely going to want 3-4 year extensions and Gino can’t stay healthy anymore, that’s risky imo, but who knows, maybe that’s the plan (although it seemed like there was lots of talk of selling them off last offseason but teams didn’t want to pay those salaries)

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11668
    #2125145

    That Avs-Blues game last night was amazing….ly one sided! Binnington was standing on his head all game, just getting peppered. Avs should have won about 7-2, and it went to OT, but at least the right team won. Blues were outshot 54-25 and 13-0 in OT.

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8540
    #2125152

    That Avs-Blues game last night was amazing….ly one sided! Binnington was standing on his head all game, just getting peppered. Avs should have won about 7-2, and it went to OT, but at least the right team won. Blues were outshot 54-25 and 13-0 in OT.

    Shot attempts 106 – 45 (!!) It’s disheartening watching the Colorado buzz saw do that to the team that just handled the Wild.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22846
    #2125154

    It would be great to have Fleury back, but I just dont see it happening. Would you like to ride out the last year(s) on the team that you won 3 cups on or try and win some other team that you only spent a couple months with win their first?
    He would be great for us and would have a bigger role for sure, but I just dont see it happening.

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11668
    #2125159

    Shot attempts 106 – 45 (!!) It’s disheartening watching the Colorado buzz saw do that to the team that just handled the Wild.

    Yeah, I think we would have matched up better against the Avs, but still wouldn’t have come close. Instead of 3-2 in OT like last night, it would be 6-3 in regulation.

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8540
    #2125162

    Wild are a much better skating team than the Blues, and that’s where Colorado is killing them. Why the Wild didn’t do that to the Blues I have no idea – too focused trying to bully them with heavy playoff hockey I guess.

    Ice Cap
    Posts: 2163
    #2125180

    It would be great to have Fleury back, but I just dont see it happening. Would you like to ride out the last year(s) on the team that you won 3 cups on or try and win some other team that you only spent a couple months with win their first?
    He would be great for us and would have a bigger role for sure, but I just dont see it happening.

    The Wild are getting no where near a Cup in the one or two years Fluery has left. He thought like many of us did that this Wild team this year was at least going on a deep run and with some luck could wind up in the finals. If Pittsburgh has a spot for him I believe he’s gone. I think that’s where he was hoping to wind up when Vegas cut him loose. Don’t forget he seriously contemplated retirement before he agreed to go to Chicago. with the moves Chicago made before the season everyone thought they were at the very least a playoff team. Then they got Beached. wink

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22846
    #2125198

    I wouldnt write off the Wild as a cup contender over the next few years. It is going to take a lot of things to fall into place, but look what Montreal did last year. Yeah, that was a strange season with the conferences all messed up, but catch lightning in a bottle and it could happen.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17898
    #2125205

    I look at the next 3 years as experiance builders for the players, while I agree it will be tough to win the cup against teams with $15 million more to spend, we still have a superstar and experianced veterans in key positions and a very young core of good players, anything can happen once you get in the playoffs (I don’t see the Wild missing the playoffs)

    GMBG has 3 years to get all of the pieces in place, so when we get back $15 in capspace he can quickly fill the gaps with impactful players and we make a hard push for the cup… it is what it is, we would be in the same position IF Parise and Suter were never bought out, we would just have 2 old & non-impact players taking icetime away from the next core of players and a lockeroom that kept them alienated from everyone else…

    Suter (while he did surprisingly play all 82 games) had his worst point production this year since his 3rd season in the league 14 seasons ago…

    Parise (while he did surprisingly play in all 82 games) had his worst point production this year since his rookie year 15 seasons ago…

    This drop in production was perfectly expected by the Wild brass when they originaly offered the contracts and had these final 3 seasons costing the Wild only $1 million each, but we all know how the NHL retroactively applied new rules to the contracts and the rest is buyout history…

    Expect their numbers to get worse and worse the next 3 years which would have been the end of their original Wild contracts (if Zack even plays that many more)

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22846
    #2125206

    I just hope we can put together a team to be super competitive in the Cup Playoffs while Kaprizov is still here.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17898
    #2125217

    I just hope we can put together a team to be super competitive in the Cup Playoffs while Kaprizov is still here.

    So he’ll still be under contract when we start the big push 4 seasons from now with only the small $1.6 million cap restriction remaining for 2 more years. The Wild’s Cup window picture should be clear as day by then and he’ll have a decision to make on taking an 8 year extension from the Wild or taking 7 years elsewhere, lots can happen in the years leading upto that decision (injuries, maybe an existing or future draft pick turns into another Kaprizov?) though so it’s pointless to think about it….

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