2022 MN WILD/NHL THREAD

Deano said it on KFAN this morning

Justin riegel wrote:

I put alot of it on Fluery kicking out 20 and 30 foot rebounds on the power play is a recipe for disaster. The wild will need play alot tighter defense if they hope to have any chance. I am not feeling good about this one.

^^^ He gives up way to many rebounds and ends up out of position. It doesn’t help that the wilds power play is weak. They are free to Beat us up all night because they are not worried about our power play. I would have preferred to play any other team than the Blues in the 1st round.

Lots of attention on the goalie for a team that got shut out game 1… low hanging fruit for casuals maybe ??

These 2 teams are Jekyl and Hyde in opposite ways when it comes to 5v5 vs special teams. Game 1 was decided 100% on special teams and it was ugly. But the Wild will win every game that’s decided at 5v5.

Connor Dewar might be the best PK forward on the team and certainly doesn’t hurt them at 5v5. Do we see him in at some point?

I sure hope the report of another Flurry start is wrong. I knew when they picked him up it was going to create a Controversy and problem at some point.

tswoboda wrote:

Connor Dewar might be the best PK forward on the team and certainly doesn’t hurt them at 5v5. Do we see him in at some point?

Id like to see him. Wonder if any other lineup changes are in store? Goose? Bjugstad? Our 5×5 play was fine, but need to shore up the PK BIG TIME or just stay out of the dang box in the first place which seems impossible for these guys.

Well the only other game that had as many penalties called was Leaf’s Lightning. Well that game was pretty one sided as well because of the PP. watched many of the games last night and not nearly the calls in any of those games.

Half the road teams have now won game 1.

For those complaining that Flower kicks rebounds out 20-30 ft. Would you rather he kick them out five ft in front of the net.

For a team that got shutout Fleury is not my main concern.

Do we know if the same refs do an entire series or do they switch around? Curious about that. The one ref we had Game 1 historically calls a ton penalties against the Wild. Curiously the other ref (first playoff game) was from Detroit Lakes.

Tough to use the stay out of the box line when they only went to the box 3 times and got scored on every time (not counting garbage time). 3 penalties in a game is generally very good. But at the same time 2 of those 3 penalties were Greenway being dumb. So I guess it’s some combination of don’t take dumb penalties and then actually kill one when you do.

I don’t see what good Bjugstad does, he doesn’t kill penalties and it’s not like the 4th line did anything wrong. Dewar makes sense only for the PK boost and it might even be Jost that comes out for him. Could see Goose for Kulikov but Kulikov and Merrill have been their best PK combo during the regular season. Goose not great on the PK.

CaptainMusky wrote:

Do we know if the same refs do an entire series or do they switch around? Curious about that. The one ref we had Game 1 historically calls a ton penalties against the Wild. Curiously the other ref (first playoff game) was from Detroit Lakes.

Different refs tonight.

Brenk is the Mayor’s kid and he did us dirty with that penalty shot!

It sure isnt full on panic mode yet. Youre right 3 penalties isnt bad, but if you cant stop a PP 0 penalties would be preferred LOL.

Goose in for Kulikov

Ripjiggen wrote:

Well

For those complaining that Flower kicks rebounds out 20-30 ft. Would you rather he kick them out five ft in front of the net.

For a team that got shutout Fleury is not my main concern.

Yea I would rather have him kick them out 5 feet because defenders are use to tying guys up in that area not out at the hashes.

Playing from behind is also different animal.

Apparently Kaprizov isnt on the ice for morning skate.

Justin riegel wrote:

Yea I would rather have him kick them out 5 feet because defenders are use to tying guys up in that area not out at the hashes.

Playing from behind is also different animal.

I think one of the things is the D are not real comfortable with Fleury and his rebound tendencies compared to playing the entire season with Talbot. Knowing how your goalie directs rebounds makes a difference on positioning in front of the net.

Justin riegel wrote:

Yea I would rather have him kick them out 5 feet because defenders are use to tying guys up in that area not out at the hashes.

Doesn’t matter who is in net when you score zero goals. Hope they are focused tonight.

tswoboda wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Justin riegel wrote:</div>
Yea I would rather have him kick them out 5 feet because defenders are use to tying guys up in that area not out at the hashes.

X2

You guys notice how far Fleury slides? His pads seem slipperier than most. Am I imagining it?

fishthumper wrote:

I sure hope the report of another Flurry start is wrong. I knew when they picked him up it was going to create a Controversy and problem at some point.

This pick up was what rejuvenated a slumping team. As soon as he was picked up, we starting winning again. The addition of MAF, Jost, Middleton was much needed.

CaptainMusky wrote:

You guys notice how far Fleury slides? His pads seem slipperier than most. Am I imagining it?

No that’s his style. He over committed on one goal. 3 of the four were litterally kicked on to someone stick on the forehand in perfect shooting position after a back door one timer he saved.

Ripjiggen wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>CaptainMusky wrote:</div>
You guys notice how far Fleury slides? His pads seem slipperier than most. Am I imagining it?

No that’s his style. He over committed on one goal. 3 of the four were litterally kicked on to someone stick on the forehand in perfect shooting position after a back door one timer he saved.

I would like to see Talbot other than Fleury personally. Not because FLeury was bad, but because of his style. Our D has been leaky on rebounds all year long and Talbot seems to swallow up rebounds more often and is more balanced having a better chance at stopping the second chance shots. However, he also might let in a soft goal or two that Fleury may not.

Tough decisions but as others have said, the team needs to score, especially on the PP. I had hope after our first couple PPs in game 1 were really flying but couldn’t capitalize. Then the rest were really bad.

I don’t necessarily disagree with you but the actual goals that were scored had nothing to do with corralling a rebound. No goalie is going to coral a one timer back door that is off their leg pad.

I would like to see our stars score.

Ripjiggen wrote:

I would like to see our stars score.

I would like to see anyone score.

Last time talking about the goalie who lost in a shutout…

Every single Peron goal was a rebound off a 1 timer that was flat on the ice or 2″ off. I don’t care who the goalie is pad rebounds can’t be swallowed up, just gotta send them to the opposite board as hard as you can. And Fleury did that, they just happened to find Peron’s forehand tape like a perfect pass. The D better not be over there covering him on a PK either. It’s the initial royal road one-timer that needs to be stopped and should never be allowed in the first place.

The ROR goal yeah Flower over committed and slid out of position.

Ripjiggen wrote:

I don’t necessarily disagree with you but the actual goals that were scored had nothing to do with corralling a rebound. No goalie is going to coral a one timer back door that is off their leg pad.

beat me to it

tswoboda wrote:

Last time talking about the goalie who lost in a shutout…

Every single Peron goal was a rebound off a 1 timer that was flat on the ice or 2″ off. I don’t care who the goalie is pad rebounds can’t be swallowed up, just gotta send them to the opposite board as hard as you can. And Fleury did that, they just happened to find Peron’s forehand tape like a perfect pass. The D better not be over there covering him on a PK either. It’s the initial royal road one-timer that needs to be stopped and should never be allowed in the first place.

The ROR goal yeah Flower over committed and slid out of position.

Oh so someone did watch the same game I did.

The people on Twitter are losing their minds that Fleury is starting. Clearly none of them watched the same game as we did. As mentioned only that one goal was on Fleury, but I bet he’d say he wanted that short side one back too, but that was a heckuva shot.

I’m sure…

CaptainMusky wrote:

The people on Twitter are losing their minds that Fleury is starting. Clearly none of them watched the same game as we did. As mentioned only that one goal was on Fleury, but I bet he’d say he wanted that short side one back too, but that was a heckuva shot.

If you are referencing the first one, he over slid on the first shot. The pass and shot were on the side he was already on. He then had to make a right kick out save and the puck went right to Perron’s stick.

3rd and 4th were not his fault, but you were already down 2.

He has been out of position since coming here, but hey if he pitches a shut out tonight, I’ll leave town.

CaptainMusky wrote:

You guys notice how far Fleury slides? His pads seem slipperier than most. Am I imagining it?

That is what I notice as well. He slides so far on the first save it causes him to be so far away from making the second save. I only watched the first period, but both of the Blues goals in that period had Fleury 4 feet from the net by the time the puck went in..