2022 MN WILD/NHL THREAD

  • tswoboda
    Posts: 8469
    #2121218

    Wild PP 0/6
    Blues PP 3/3 [when it mattered]

    That’s it, that’s the difference.

    Add in 4 posts, 4 rebound goals, and guys like Fiala, Greenway, and Spurgeon acting like fake tough guys and you get an embarrassing loss.

    Game was a mirror image of the Bolts Leafs game. Refs setting the tone in 1st period and game decided by special teams.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11576
    #2121219

    Agree…Literally every goal was a perfect rebound on the guys stick in shooting position. It was kind of crazy actually. Zero flow to the game and hardly any body checks on both sides. Any physical play resulted in a penalty.
    First period felt like an hour long. Not sure there was a line change that wasn’t on a whistle.

    Ice Cap
    Posts: 2153
    #2121230

    Hopefully the offense shows up for Talbot in game 2… they hung Fleury out to dry tonight..

    The D didn’t help him out much either with those rebounds. Laying this on Fluery is easy but he’s not the problem for the Wild. They had many problems take your pick. Stupid penalties, same old crap pk, same old crap pp. Kulikov had a uncharacteristically bad game so Deano probably sits him in favor of Goligoski I would guess. Not sure that’s an improvement. I’m sure Kulikov knows he had a bad game I’d give him a chance to make up for it.

    Fluery made some big saves. The penalty shot early was absolutely huge. And why that was even a penalty shot needs to be explained to me. Brodin didn’t jerk the skates out from under Barbashev. Brodin put on a clinic on how to defend that without getting a penalty.

    Spurgeon. What the hell was that? A cross check to the guys ankle from behind? He will be lucky to not get suspended. That could easily fall into the intent to injure category. Blues got exactly what they needed. Steal the first one on the road. Go back home with a split at the worst. If Husso shows up Wednesday like he did last night then it’s back to St. Louis with the Blues up two. If that turns out to be the case the lights go pretty dim on a otherwise great Wild season. That would sure be a waste and a shame.

    the_hat
    SE Metro
    Posts: 246
    #2121239

    I would take Benn over Kulikov last night. #dumpsterfire.
    Goligoski has to be back for sure.

    Ice Cap
    Posts: 2153
    #2121240

    I would take Benn over Kulikov last night. #dumpsterfire.
    Goligoski has to be back for sure.

    Kulikov is at least mobile what do you think the Blues passing game would do to Benn and Goligoski? That’s why they sat last night. Kulikov’s game last night was a outlier. I’m not saying he’s a Spurgeon or Brodin but he usually doesn’t hurt us like he did last night. Now if Spurgeon gets suspended a game or two that’s going to be a whole new set of problems.

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17296
    #2121246

    and guys like Fiala, Greenway, and Spurgeon acting like fake tough guys

    LOL

    Still in the Talbot camp here.

    the_hat
    SE Metro
    Posts: 246
    #2121251

    I guess if you call being out of position all night mobile…then yup, he’s your guy.
    Benn was in sarcasm.

    I will take the +30something for the season as a 3rd pair guy when the season matters most.

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11036
    #2121255

    That’s why I think you have to go with Talbot. If our d positioning was better I say go with Fleury, but Talbot is so stable he can get to those shots off the rebound. Our D has been nowhere to be seen on a lot of rebounds this season.

    Gitchi Gummi
    Posts: 3011
    #2121257

    goaltending wasn’t the only reason we lost last night but holy crap was Flower’s rebound control terrible. Almost every save he made, the rebound went right to where an opposing player was or should be. Then he would have to flop around to try to get a limb in front of the next shot and he was flailing around like a fish out of water. Not his best performance, thats for sure.

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8469
    #2121259

    Nerves will settle down
    Wild dominated at 5v5
    Special teams can’t be THAT bad again
    Can’t hit 4 posts with no goals again

    I’m not worried

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17800
    #2121264

    The overeaction to last night’s game is just silly…Reminder that the Blues were just as hot as the Wild the last 20+ games of the regular season, we opened the door for them early on and they plowed right through, that’s what good teams do…

    as tswoboda said, we hit 4 posts, our combined special teams were almost a complete 100% failure, Husso played a perfect game… these are all things that won’t repeat in game 2…

    to quote the douchebag Erin Rodgers….RELAX…..

    one thing I noticed was how the Blues finished EVERY check on Spurgeon and by the end of the game we saw him more frustrated than ever before resulting with the cheap shot cross-check to the ankle of a Blues player…wtf was that? That was much worse/intent to injure than what MacDermid did to Foligno…This is what I was talking about in terms of how smaller framed defenseman can be thrown off their game with constant hits all game…The Wild was doing the samething with Krug and we saw frustration by him towards the end of the game as well, the difference was he kept his head on and Greenway took a stupid cross-checking penalty on him that resulted in a PP goal..

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11589
    #2121265

    Thought they were way too amped up last night, pressing on offense and out of position on D all night. Did they get the puck deep once in the first period? Obviously a poor performance, but agree with tswoboda it’s a long series and should be fine. 3-2, 1-0, 4-0 or 8-0, it’s only 1 loss.

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8469
    #2121268

    one thing I noticed was how the Blues finished EVERY check on Spurgeon and by the end of the game we saw him more frustrated than ever before resulting with the cheap shot cross-check to the ankle of a Blues player…wtf was that? That was much worse/intent to injure than what MacDermid did to Foligno…

    It was just a weird vibe from the start, almost like the Wild players thought they needed to bully the Blues to beat them. Should be the total opposite, should stay out of the crap to keep the game at 5v5. Spurgeon deserves 2 games for that garbage, only way he gets out of it is because he’s Jared Spurgeon. He had a couple extra wacks and other dirty stuff earlier in the game too. Fiala initiating contact after every whistle, why? Greenway with 2 bone head penalties – the Tarasenko one was because Greener gave about 3 too many jabs after Tank had stopped and it knocked his helmet off. But why try to Bully 240 pound Tarasenko after a whistle – it’s not going to do anything, not to that guy anyway.

    Ice Cap
    Posts: 2153
    #2121283

    I guess if you call being out of position all night mobile…then yup, he’s your guy.
    Benn was in sarcasm.

    I will take the +30something for the season as a 3rd pair guy when the season matters most.

    I’m not arguing he had a bad game. Anyone can see he did. I’m saying it was a outlier for him he usually much better than that. You will probably get your wish and see Goligoski and or Benn Wednesday night. Hopefully they won’t hurt us.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11576
    #2121285

    Not sure what the D could have done 3 of the 4 rebounds were literally across ice right to the forehand side of the player in perfect shooting position. I would have netted 3 of them.
    The vibe was weird because it was so bonkers in the first 5 minutes. 4 penalties and a penalty shot. It took any rhythm out of the game.
    It got the wild and the crowd to riled up towards the refs.
    Game 2 should be better.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17800
    #2121289

    Not sure what the D could have done 3 of the 4 rebounds were literally across ice right to the forehand side of the player in perfect shooting position. I would have netted 3 of them.

    They couldn’t have done much more other than telling everyone on the bench to stay the F out of the box!

    Outside of several cross-ice passes that should never be allowed by the penalty killers, the Blues simply got the puck to the net and pounded the rebounds home…The Wild tried to do that on their PP, but when they did eventually get a puck through to the goalie, the Blues defenders cleared the crease or got in the way of any additional shots…

    Ice Cap
    Posts: 2153
    #2121291

    As of now no hearing scheduled for Spurgeon so we may dodge a huge bullet but if it were the other way around we would all be screaming for a two game suspension. The Blues had a lot of puck luck with those rebounds landing on a Blues stick in front of the net but guys shouldn’t be just standing there waiting for it.

    I expect we will see a much different Wild team Wednesday. But the Blues got what they needed out of the way and that’s to win one of the two here. They will be coming hard to try for a sweep you can count on it. They are probably going to take some liberties early trying to draw the Wild into penalties and if they wind up in the box I’m sure they feel they can survive that as well.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17800
    #2121293

    Hey look at that! Aaron Ekblad’s injury is magically healed by the start of game 1 of the Playoffs…

    How about the Mike Smith gaff last night resulting in the Oilers loss, how does he not learn?

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22626
    #2121299

    The spurgeon thing looked to be in retaliation to the blues guy kicking him in the chest. Still dumb and uncharacteristic of him but I’d be pissed too seeing how many scary skate lacerations recently.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17800
    #2121301

    The spurgeon thing looked to be in retaliation to the blues guy kicking him in the chest. Still dumb and uncharacteristic of him but I’d be pissed too seeing how many scary skate lacerations recently.

    really? I must of missed that play

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8469
    #2121308

    The spurgeon thing looked to be in retaliation to the blues guy kicking him in the chest. Still dumb and uncharacteristic of him but I’d be pissed too seeing how many scary skate lacerations recently.

    Had to re-watch to see what you’re talking about here (also heard Russo make the same point) but that looks completely incidental from the puck puck battle. Regardless what Spurgeon did is so blatant and completely out of character… not a good look for the captain. Fits the theme of guys overcompensating for “playoff hockey” aka garbage after whistles and behind the play. Blues playoff experience showed but it’s easy to be composed playing with a lead most of the game.

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8469
    #2121310

    How about the Mike Smith gaff last night resulting in the Oilers loss, how does he not learn?

    So predictable! At this point can you even blame the 40 year old for being exactly who he’s always been? Just exposes Holland for riding out *another* McDavid/Draisaitl season with no goaltending.

    MN Z
    Stark MN
    Posts: 260
    #2121313

    Spurgeon $5k fine

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11576
    #2121319

    The Blues had a lot of puck luck with those rebounds landing on a Blues stick in front of the net but guys shouldn’t be just standing there waiting for it.

    Tough to cover all 5 guys with only 4 defenders. 3 of the 4 the guy was standing in the circle on the opposite side of the net.

    Ice Cap
    Posts: 2153
    #2121334

    The Blues had a lot of puck luck with those rebounds landing on a Blues stick in front of the net but guys shouldn’t be just standing there waiting for it.

    Tough to cover all 5 guys with only 4 defenders. 3 of the 4 the guy was standing in the circle on the opposite side of the net.

    The Blues seem to have no problem covering guys 5 on 4. But yeah I get you’re point. Frustrating loss and bad way to start the series.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11576
    #2121338

    Yeah the rebounds didn’t glue to our stick blades either. Call it puck luck or call it the wild couldn’t coral those rebounds but from what I saw in person was there rebounds literally landed perfectly flat on their stick and we couldn’t control to many of them at all. Nerves, bounces, dunno.

    The wild need to move more on the PP the blues are super aggressive on the PK which should open up some opportunities on some pretty close one timers but they have to skate more to avoid that first guys pressure. To many drop passes to d that was there only outlet.

    The stars need to be better tomorrow as well.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11576
    #2121339

    The spurgeon thing looked to be in retaliation to the blues guy kicking him in the chest. Still dumb and uncharacteristic of him but I’d be pissed too seeing how many scary skate lacerations recently.

    I know the blues fans on twitter are going nuts over it.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17800
    #2121348

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    really? I must of missed that play
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    so the Blues player did nothing here, maybe Spurg felt the guy lean on him a bit but nothing malicious at all, cant say that about his reaction.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22626
    #2121350

    so the Blues player did nothing here, maybe Spurg felt the guy lean on him a bit but nothing malicious at all, cant say that about his reaction.

    In slow motion the blues guy looks worse than it was. It was completely incidental, but his skate absolutely hit him in the chest and was close to his neck. I think thats obviously why Spurg went after his leg. Dumb move, glad he wasnt suspended.

    Jake
    Brainerd
    Posts: 184
    #2121369

    Anyone else notice Wes Walz was almost in tears before the game started? I had to rewatch it a couple times. Couldn’t tell if he was holding in a sneeze or was about to cry on air.

    I had just turned it on. Was there some heartfelt tribute or something?

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