2022 MN WILD/NHL THREAD

  • JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 18377
    #2120927

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>tswoboda wrote:</div>
    Not sure why, but I’m getting a feeling that Flower might start game 1.

    Looks like your feeling is true.

    i’m surprised, but maybe the thinking is give him the chance to put together one more magical playoff run, if he falters you bring Cam in for the rest of the series, but if you catch lightning, you ride it as far as it takes you?

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 23377
    #2120930

    i’m surprised, but maybe the thinking is give him the chance to put together one more magical playoff run, if he falters you bring Cam in for the rest of the series, but if you catch lightning, you ride it as far as it takes you?

    It may seem a bit surprising but it really isnt at the same time. I am sure there will be a short leash with either goalie. Excited to see how this goes. If Fleury is on he is other worldly. Just as Fiala.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 18377
    #2120932

    what was the 1st/2nd round draft pick clause from the trade? Fleury gets at least 2 wins in each of the frist two rounds or 4 wins total?

    nvm, I just found that it’s 4 wins total in first 2 rounds…

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8723
    #2120936

    There’s an argument for Flower’s athletic style being better against the pass-happy Blues than Cam’s ‘get hit by the puck’ style. But I think Fleury game 1 was a GM decision and it was made a month ago or whenever the trade deadline was. Talbot comments in his recent presser sounded like a guy expecting to be on the bench for playoffs.

    Foligno injury has to be a contusion or deep bruise which can’t really be further injured or aggravated. It just hurts like biotch so he’ll be juiced up with vitamin-T and good to go. I do hope it keeps him off the PK and they put D-Lo with JEEK instead.

    gim
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17846
    #2120937

    It may seem a bit surprising

    It is to me. I thought Talbot earned his way into the game 1 starter the last month or so. His stats have been worthy of his All Star status. Fluery hasn’t been bad either, but IMO he’s getting the starting nod based on his history and experience.

    I do agree that both of them would be on a short leash and you ride whoever is playing well until they falter.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 18377
    #2120939

    like I said, it’s an opportunity for Fleury to catch fire, if he’s winning you keep him in, if he falters then the net is Cam’s as long as he can hold it…it also eliminates all of the distractions of fans/media screaming “bring Fleury in” if Talbot lets in a “soft” goal in game 1…Fleury has his shot, it’s upto him to keep it..

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11040
    #2120940

    I think it’s more of a “you can’t trade for a Hall of Fame goalie at the deadline and sit him in the playoffs” type of thing.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 23377
    #2120941

    But I think Fleury game 1 was a GM decision and it was made a month ago or whenever the trade deadline was.

    Im not so sure about this. Guerin said that they have conversations with the coaching staff, but ultimate decisions are up to Dean.

    gim
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17846
    #2120943

    Im not so sure about this. Guerin said that they have conversations with the coaching staff, but ultimate decisions are up to Dean.

    I brought this up recently on lineup changes. I think the coach should be making these decisions. Not the GM. We won’t ever know who made this decision. That is not public information unless someone leaks it.

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8723
    #2120946

    Im not so sure about this. Guerin said that they have conversations with the coaching staff, but ultimate decisions are up to Dean.

    Yeah they lied. Call it GM Speak or Coach Speak or whatever but I think they lie through their teeth about lineup decisions and injuries in public press conferences. As they should.

    Ice Cap
    Posts: 2173
    #2120947

    I think it’s more of a “you can’t trade for a Hall of Fame goalie at the deadline and sit him in the playoffs” type of thing.

    This. BG knew this when he traded for him.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 18377
    #2120949

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>mahtofire14 wrote:</div>
    I think it’s more of a “you can’t trade for a Hall of Fame goalie at the deadline and sit him in the playoffs” type of thing.

    This. BG knew this when he traded for him.

    probably, but nobody knew Talbot wouldn’t lose a game since the trade either…

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8723
    #2120950

    mahtofire14 wrote:
    I think it’s more of a “you can’t trade for a Hall of Fame goalie at the deadline and sit him in the playoffs” type of thing.

    This. BG knew this when he traded for him.

    Exactly toast

    Looks like Scandella out for the Blues – though I’m not sure which team this helps. He’s a top 4 D-man but he’s also a liability.

    gim
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17846
    #2120951

    probably, but nobody knew Talbot wouldn’t lose a game since the trade either…

    That’s what I’m talking about. He earned it with his play. I almost hope it back fires now.

    Fleury can be a liability when he decides to go out for a stroll and play the puck sometimes. That’s when my blood pressure spikes.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 23377
    #2120953

    Looks like Scandella out for the Blues – though I’m not sure which team this helps. He’s a top 4 D-man but he’s also a liability.

    The Wild have a massive edge at D against the Blues.

    Gitchi Gummi
    Posts: 3140
    #2120955

    like I said, it’s an opportunity for Fleury to catch fire, if he’s winning you keep him in, if he falters then the net is Cam’s as long as he can hold it…it also eliminates all of the distractions of fans/media screaming “bring Fleury in” if Talbot lets in a “soft” goal in game 1…Fleury has his shot, it’s upto him to keep it..

    I can’t say what the actual rational was for the person who actually made the decision, but this reasoning makes the most sense to me.

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8723
    #2120959

    JoeMX1825 wrote:
    probably, but nobody knew Talbot wouldn’t lose a game since the trade either…

    That’s what I’m talking about. He earned it with his play. I almost hope it back fires now.

    Just makes it more obvious that Fleury was the predetermined starter, right?

    Husso starting the for the Blues. I hope we get to see Binnington ASAP – guy’s a headcase.

    gim
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17846
    #2120962

    Just makes it more obvious that Fleury was the predetermined starter, right?

    Yes, I would say that’s accurate without any kind of confirmation.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 18377
    #2120965

    Just makes it more obvious that Fleury was the predetermined starter, right?

    no argument from me on this thinking…

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 18377
    #2120972

    we need more prediction posts! we need to hit 200 pages by puck drop!

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 23377
    #2120977

    Im usually never good at these but here goes.
    Round 1:
    Avs over Preds in 5
    Wild over Blues in 7
    Flames over Stars in 6
    Kings over Oilers in 5
    Panthers over Capitals in 4
    Leafs over Lightning in 6
    Canes over Bruins in 6
    Rangers over Penguins in 5

    Round 2:
    Wild over Avs in 7
    Flames over Kings in 5
    Panthers over Leafs in 7
    Rangers over Canes in 7

    Round 3:
    Wild over Flames in 6
    Panthers over Rangers in 6

    Finals:
    Wild over Panthers in 6

    KP
    Hudson, WI
    Posts: 1423
    #2120981

    Russo tweeted that Flower is practicing in the starters net for the morning skate. Personally I’d like to see Cam get the start from how well he has been playing.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 18377
    #2120982

    I hope we get to see Binnington ASAP – guy’s a headcase.

    Binnington scares me because he’s a complete Wildcard, he can be absolutely lights out (as we saw several years ago in the playoffs) or he can be absolutely terrible (like mostly this season)…with Husso we kind of know what we’re getting…although his numbers the past 10 games or so are not very good…

    Justin riegel
    Posts: 952
    #2120983

    Here is mine without watching the Eastern conference much this year and going the homer route:

    Avs over Preds in 4
    Wild over Blues in 7
    Flames over Stars in 5
    Oilers over Kings in 7
    Panthers over Capitals in 6
    Lightning over Leafs in 7
    Bruins over Cains in 7
    Rangers over Penguins in 6

    Round 2:
    Wild over Avs in 7
    Flames over Oilers in 5
    Lightning Over Panthers in 7
    Rangers over Bruins in 7

    Round 3:
    Wild over Flames in 6
    Rangers over Lightning in 6

    Finals:
    Wild over Rangers in 5

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11836
    #2120991

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>JoeMX1825 wrote:</div>
    probably, but nobody knew Talbot wouldn’t lose a game since the trade either…

    That’s what I’m talking about. He earned it with his play. I almost hope it back fires now.

    Fleury can be a liability when he decides to go out for a stroll and play the puck sometimes. That’s when my blood pressure spikes.

    So you hope it backfires and they lose because they decided to start a HOF goalie they traded for in 1 game.
    Man you must be hoot to watch local sports with.

    IceNEyes1986
    Harris, MN
    Posts: 1310
    #2120993

    Here’s my predictions:

    Round 1:
    Preds over Avs in 7
    Wild over Blues in 6
    Flames over Stars in 5
    Kings over Oilers in 7
    Panthers over Capitals in 5
    Leafs over Lightning in 6
    Canes over Bruins in 5
    Rangers over Penguins in 6

    Round 2:
    Wild over Preds in 6
    Flames over Kings in 5
    Panthers over Lightning in 6
    Canes over Rangers in 7

    Round 3:
    Wild over Flames in 7
    Panthers over Canes in 6

    Finals:
    Wild over Panthers in 7

    A lot of you follow hockey WAY more than I do. I’m just a TMSF. Although this is probably my favorite thread to catch up on in IDO. GO WILD!!!

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11836
    #2120994

    Most likely we will see both goalies in this series and beyond.

    gim
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17846
    #2121005

    So you hope it backfires and they lose because they decided to start a HOF goalie they traded for in 1 game

    We don’t know for sure that’s the reason they acquired him. Its only speculation.

    I stand behind my opinion that Talbot should be starting in game 1. I think starting Fleury is not the right move. And apparently others agree with me.

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8723
    #2121006

    Can we talk about how weird it is that 36 year old Alex Goligoski is healthy scratched for game 1 a month after getting a 2 year x $2m extension?

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