2022 Minnesota Vikings

Dan wrote:

Personally I think Tyler Johnson will catch on with another team and be a decent WR2/3 somewhere.

Signed with the Texans already.

CaptainMusky wrote:

Mond and Watts claimed. Surprised by Mond, but not Watts. He is likely going to burn us when we face the Bears.

Mond was claimed by Cleveland with the idea of being the 3rd string for them. I’m not sure if they are considering Watson their QB1 (or QB2) right now since he is ineligible due to suspension. If they are, then technically Mond would be the backup to Jacoby Brissett until Watson returns.

Mond is behind Brissett and Joshua Dobbs in Cleveland, until Watson is back and then he will be cut or waived and signed to someone’s practice squad. Watts in Chicago could be a problem if they aren’t the dumpster fire I expect tho.

Not sure what the interest in Jaelon Raegor is…

BigWerm wrote:

Not sure what the interest in Jaelon Raegor is…

Punt returner. It will be interesting to see interactions between he and Jefferson since Raegor was trash talking him on social media a while ago.

anyone see the video of Zim and Spielman laughing at the Eagles for drafting Reagor over JJ?

Sure seams like the new regime is trying to wipe the slate completely clean from the last era.

I don’t see the upside in Reagor.

Ripjiggen wrote:

anyone see the video of Zim and Spielman laughing at the Eagles for drafting Reagor over JJ?

Yeah, that’s great. Kind of feel bad for Reagor, it’s not his fault the Eagles messed up. He was a stud at TCU, and hopefully he can resurrect his career here even just as a punt returner at first.

He reminds me of Treadwell

Our new GM better learn to stop overpaying for people. We are getting throttled for this move around the league. And we didn’t just lose the draft picks. We had to waive Smith Marsette to make room for him. Oh by the way, he lost two fumbles last season so it’s not like he’s an upgrade at that. Not a fan of this move.

You mean his 7.4 yard average that was almost at the bottom of the league. What’s not to like.

Would it not have been easier to just sign Dede Westbrook back.

mahtofire14 wrote:

Our new GM better learn to stop overpaying for people. We are getting throttled for this move around the league. And we didn’t just lose the draft picks. We had to waive Smith Marsette to make room for him. Oh by the way, he lost two fumbles last season so it’s not like he’s much of an upgrade at that. Not a fan of this move.

He also had Jalen Hurts as his QB, not saying it is good move but he didn’t pay a lot for a guy that was a first rounder 2 years ago.

Ripjiggen wrote:

You mean his 7.4 yard average that was almost at the bottom of the league. What’s not to like.

Ripjiggen wrote:

You mean his 7.4 yard average that was almost at the bottom of the league. What’s not to like.

Ripjiggen wrote:

You mean his 7.4 yard average that was almost at the bottom of the league. What’s not to like.

Exactly. At least ISM showed some potential in the return game and even some in the passing game.

It should be interesting to see how Reagor fits in. I just don’t see him excelling at the Center position, but maybe Kwesi Adolfo-Mensah is just playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers?

4th rounder for a guy that was fifth on his team in receptions.

Justin riegel wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>mahtofire14 wrote:</div>
Our new GM better learn to stop overpaying for people. We are getting throttled for this move around the league. And we didn’t just lose the draft picks. We had to waive Smith Marsette to make room for him. Oh by the way, he lost two fumbles last season so it’s not like he’s much of an upgrade at that. Not a fan of this move.

He also had Jalen Hurts as his QB, not saying it is good move but he didn’t pay a lot for a guy that was a first rounder 2 years ago.

Correct but that 1st round stock is all but gone. He had Wentz the year before also and did nothing. Probably could’ve gotten him for a 5th or 6th rounder, not two of them.

Meh, we need to get over the Spielman mindset of never ending draft capital being good. Top 3 rounds sure, but anything after that you can trade or reacquire pretty easily. Plus, with compensation picks now, you can recoup them even easier when Mattison or other guys leave. I liked Smith-Marsette tho, so that’s interesting and certainly sets a bar for Reagor.

I’ll let Reagor show me how I should think about this trade.

BigWerm wrote:

Meh, we need to get over the Spielman mindset of never ending draft capital being good. Top 3 rounds sure, but anything after that you can trade or reacquire pretty easily. Plus, with compensation picks now, you can recoup them even easier when Mattison or other guys leave. I liked Smith-Marsette tho, so that’s interesting and certainly sets a bar for Reagor.

Yeah Qwesi will trade down at the draft 3 times in the first round again this year and get those back….

Just remember I said last year I didn’t think Miranda was all that good. But I had seen him about as much as all these guys you are talking about. Lets see what they can do on the field.

The new Messiah is here to lead the Vikings to the promised land.

mahtofire14 wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>BigWerm wrote:</div>
Meh, we need to get over the Spielman mindset of never ending draft capital being good. Top 3 rounds sure, but anything after that you can trade or reacquire pretty easily. Plus, with compensation picks now, you can recoup them even easier when Mattison or other guys leave. I liked Smith-Marsette tho, so that’s interesting and certainly sets a bar for Reagor.

Yeah Qwesi will trade down at the draft 3 times in the first round again this year and get those back….

Hahaha that was funny, and I was pretty upset in the moment. Once the draft was done, it made a lot more sense however.

BigWerm wrote:

Meh, we need to get over the Spielman mindset of never ending draft capital being good. Top 3 rounds sure, but anything after that you can trade or reacquire pretty easily. Plus, with compensation picks now, you can recoup them even easier when Mattison or other guys leave. I liked Smith-Marsette tho, so that’s interesting and certainly sets a bar for Reagor.

I think you’re correct on draft capital. The NFL is going to see a bit of a swing away from assets towards “win now it all costs.” It’s the trend in sports (think Lakers, Golden State, Rams, Tampa Bay Bucs, Dodgers, Padres, Yankees, etc). Draft capital is great when you’re bad, or have a gutted roster. If that’s not your franchise, you’re better off swinging with draft picks on the trade market. For every sure fire 1st round talent, there’s a Reagor who will be flipped as a former 1st rounder for peanuts a few years later. The NFL also has more day to day parity than probably any other professional sport. The Bengals just made the SB and were good, but probably not the 2nd most talented roster in most estimations.

I’ll give Kwesi a couple years to judge him but a 5th and 7th for a guy who was 1st round talent a few years ago is maybe a bit much? reminds me of John Ross. it would be funny if Reagor turns into something decent under KOC and Filthadelphia can punch themselves in the groin a few more times for passing on JJ. Reagor is what he is at this point, he either finds his role or will be out of the league soon.

Thought I’d bump this back up for the border battle! I’m pumped for the game, and every reasonable bone in my body says the Pack win by about 10. However, the purple Kool-aid is too good, and I think there’s a decent chance we hit the ground running despite whole new offensive and defensive schemes. Offensively I think that is realistic since it’s basically all the same personnel, the challenge here is the Pack will have one of the best defenses in the league this year I think. Defensively we have to stop the run, first and foremost, and see how good the chemistry is between AAron his basically whole new WR set (especially with Lazard possibly out). I’m very excited to see what Z and Hunter can do on the edge. Should be a fun year! And I hope they keep the horns turned up to 11 for baby Lafluer.

I’m also pumped and have tickets to the game I got from work, so I will be there skoling with the rest of the purple bleeding hearts. I really hope we can pull this first win off it would really help set the tone for the season.

The Vikings are at home, fired up to play for a new coach, and have a talented roster. I think Smith and Hunter will force quick throws or throwaways in key spots. The Packers O-Line is banged up/recovering and relying on guys that haven’t played together since 2020. I think the Packers will be able to move the ball on the ground some, but it won’t be enough to come out on the right side of things. Chemistry with the Packers depleted WR corps isn’t going to happen immediately and frustration by AA-Ron will be obvious. The Packers D will likely have a solid game, but expect the Vikings to still put up points as a result of the Packers offense being backed up in spots. I also look for special teams to significantly impact the game. The Packers special teams was the collective worst unit in football last year, and has had some gaffes again in the preseason.

The Packers injury report lists 12 players, while the Vikings lists 3.

Add all that up and I’m seeing Vikings 27, Packers 24. I think the Packers return the favor later this season and the division goes right down to the wire the last week or 2 of the season. I then expect both to be dumped fairly early in the playoffs (one as a Wildcard Team, one as the Division Winner)

I’d like to see the Vikes win but they seem to seldom come through against the Pack. Not sure we’ll be able to move the ball and/or score many points against their D. Rodgers will be Rodgers with or without decent receivers…and I think they’ll be able to run the ball on us pretty good.

Much is being made about the packers receivers…MVS was just not that good,fast but dropped a lot of passes. Yes it hurts to be without Adams but the two rookies Doubs and Watson are already better receivers than MVS. Pack has good tight ends and both backs catch the ball very well out of the backfield. And Sammy Watkins in the mix. I think the pack is going to be tough all around. And they have Rodgers who can make anyone look good.

Sammy Watkins always has a big game week 1 and then disappears. So with that I’m taking the Packers haha.

On KFAN you would think the Vikings are going to go undefeated and win it all. It’s going to be nice once this game is done to not hear PA mention how big of a loss Adams is for the Packers and Juicy A Rodge every single day. Like said above if you take off Adams from last years team, this years receiving group is better than last years for the Packers. MVS is not going to do any better with the chiefs than he did with the Packers.

Pack 7-0 last two yeas without Adams when out with injury. Beat Arizona last year without Adams and Lazard.

critter 1 wrote:

the two rookies Doubs and Watson are already better receivers than MVS. Pack has good tight ends and both backs catch the ball very well out of the backfield. And Sammy Watkins in the mix. I think the pack is going to be tough all around. And they have Rodgers who can make anyone look good.

Spoken like a true “owner”, the rookies aren’t better than anyone until they actually play. They should be better than MVS who was what a 3rd rounder or later? But they have to prove it first. And Rodgers and Tight ends have never done much save half a season when Tonyan was out of body. Oh and as a reminder Lambeau isn’t much more than a glorified pole barn, enjoy this week in a modern first class stadium!

BigWerm wrote:

Lambeau isn’t much more than a glorified pole barn

You must have never been to Lambeau in the past 20 years since they have renovated multiple times. If you want to describe a stadium as a glorified pole barn that would be Soldier Field. That stadium is by far the worst I’ve been too.

You make a good point about them being rookies but they still are better than MVS. I expect a lot of screens and quick dump offs to Jones and Dillon this Sunday. Rodgers knows the Vikes will throw everything at him and he will look to get the ball out quickly.