2022/2023 NHL/Wild Offseason-Season-Postseason Thread

  • JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17933
    #2173944

    This is one of those young player contracts when you hope in 2 or 3 years opposing fanbases are screaming “no fair you have Boldy signed at only $7 million per season!”

    Lots of folks were balking at Kaprizov’s $9 million aav contract, now look at that deal, its a steal!

    Time will tell… but this offseason should be alot more interesting now as there will need to be several trades to get cap compliant by the start of next season…

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11625
    #2173949

    And also the exact reason they couldn’t sign Fiala. If they did they could probably only afford two lines. jester

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11040
    #2173950

    Definitely a deal based on his potential, which it seems like he should come close to. $7 million seems a bit high at the moment to me. But that’s based on what he’s done so far not the potential obviously. I’m a little curious how we are going to sign a center for next season now with out blowing up one of the lines.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17933
    #2173953

    Hartman makes 1.7. You are not saving a whole lot by trading him and replacing him. I would think Foligno could be a candidate with a year left at 3.1

    I’m just throwing Hartman’s name out because he still has trade value and I dont see them offering him a big raise after next season unless they want him in the 1C role for the foreseeable future (unlikely). His $1.7 is likely almost enough to sign Duhaime and Shaw, so that’s how I look at it. Sami Walker did everything during his callup to look the part to replace Hartman on the 2nd line in the future.

    For sure this is the end for Greenway and likely Addison. I’d say Gaudreau is likely next on the priority list to sign (because he’s a UFA and Center) followed by the RFA’s who have limited options…

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11625
    #2173957

    Or he is your cheap 1C for next year. Dunno they will have some decisions to make.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17933
    #2173959

    I’m a little curious how we are going to sign a center for next season now with out blowing up one of the lines.

    they cant unless its a playoff rental…

    GMBG is likely set to go with who we have for another season and then see what the cap looks like for 2024/2025 season or if they need to wait until 2025/2026…

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11625
    #2173960

    Definitely a deal based on his potential, which it seems like he should come close to. $7 million seems a bit high at the moment to me. But that’s based on what he’s done so far not the potential obviously. I’m a little curious how we are going to sign a center for next season now with out blowing up one of the lines.

    His recent comps were 6-8 mill. Would have been nice to be at 6 since he is a wing, but the comps were right there.

    No center will be signed for next year.
    It is going to take some work just to fill out a lineup, but at least now they know what they have to work with. Which isn’t much.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17933
    #2173964

    If he did the 2 year bridge deal and continued to put up 60-70+ point seasons and with the expected league cap jump of around $10+ million 2-3 years from now, he’d be commanding a $9 million aav and you would be buying 2 more of his UFA years…

    From the Boldy camp’s perspective its a good insurance/set for life deal with the expectation of signing a mega deal when he’s 29 years old…

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11625
    #2173969

    Don’t disagree. It does seem like more and more of those guys are not doing the bridge and locking in the 7 year deal. 10 team NTC. Drops to NO NTC the last two years. (At least I think that is how it’s written)

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17933
    #2173975

    Don’t disagree. It does seem like more and more of those guys are not doing the bridge and locking in the 7 year deal. 10 team NTC. Drops to NO NTC the last two years. (At least I think that is how it’s written)

    I think its funny how the 30th birthday is like this voodoo barrier for these younger player contracts to end/sign before…

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11625
    #2173998

    I think for the exact reason Joe mentions. Keeps him under dirty 30 when it expires.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17933
    #2174098

    Nice article about Boldy’s deal and how its good for Boldy but great for the Wild!

    Matt Boldy’s Contract Saves Wild Money, Sweat, and Heartache

    Charlie W
    TRF / Pool 3 / Grand Rapids, MN / SJU
    Posts: 1180
    #2174128

    Side note for anyone who follows HS hockey at all. I went to the warroad hermantown game on Saturday night in warroad. Great game!! It was hermantowns first loss to a single A school in 10 years.

    lindyrig79
    Forest Lake / Lake Mille Lacs
    Posts: 5821
    #2174175

    Boldy deal applause

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17933
    #2174177

    Its been interesting to read comments from national media regarding Boldy’s deal today… many seem to think it was an absolute overpay… lots of if Bomdy got $7, then Caufield deserves $8 and so on and so on…

    Boldy is almost a Point Per Game player after 80 or so career games, and he’s only going to get better… i’m fine with $7aav

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11040
    #2174192

    I can understand why national media would think it’s an overpay when they don’t watch him every game. I would too. I still think it might be a little bit of an overpay honestly. But I’m ok with it because of his potential to make it worth it in the future.

    For the record Boldy is at .75 PPG so far in his NHL career. 67 pts in 89 games.

    AK Guy
    Posts: 1396
    #2174201

    Its been interesting to read comments from national media regarding Boldy’s deal today… many seem to think it was an absolute overpay… lots of if Bomdy got $7, then Caufield deserves $8 and so on and so on…

    Boldy is almost a Point Per Game player after 80 or so career games, and he’s only going to get better… i’m fine with $7aav

    But what does Anson Carter think about this?

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11625
    #2174205

    Side note for anyone who follows HS hockey at all. I went to the warroad hermantown game on Saturday night in warroad. Great game!! It was hermantowns first loss to a single A school in 10 years.

    Huh? They haven’t won the state tourney since 2017 before last year. So they have had plenty of single A loses in last ten years.

    Maybe they should play double AA. whistling

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11625
    #2174206

    It’s an overpay now. But he is 21. You are banking on it not being an overpay 2-3 years from now and team friendly 3-5 years from now.

    That’s the risk by not doing a bridge deal.

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17502
    #2174209

    It was hermantowns first loss to a single A school in 10 years.

    No, that’s not accurate.

    In 2013, they lost to St Thomas when they were still in class A. In 2014 and in 2015 they lost to East Grand Forks. In 2020 they lost to Mahtomedi. All of those losses were in the last 10 years.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11625
    #2174212

    They have only won state 3 times in 10 years. 16 17 and 22.

    lindyrig79
    Forest Lake / Lake Mille Lacs
    Posts: 5821
    #2174213

    Seems like a good gamble to me. The guy looks the part and would like to see some young talent locked up instead of overpaying later or worse yet watching them walk.

    How about Steel as 1C? Unless you can bring in a big dog…

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11625
    #2174214

    They can’t bring in a big dog anytime soon.

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17502
    #2174221

    They have only won it twice in 10 years. 16 and 17.

    And last year of course.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11625
    #2174222

    Yeah was thinking more last ten years and when they lost more than when they won…I edited.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22882
    #2174263

    Boldy is a bit of an overpay now, but he’s projecting to outproduce that contract in a year or two. I am fine with this deal and think it will bode well for the wild.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17933
    #2174271

    Another perspective of the new Boldy contract is just how good of a contract GMBG signed Erikson Ek for…$5.25 x 8 for a young Selke contender center who’s still improving offensively is a friggin steal…

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17933
    #2174281

    With all of the roster manuevering likely needed this offseason to get cap compliant, its fun to speculate what next seasons opening night roster could look like…

    So we project to have $9 million left to sign Gaudreau/Gustafson/Steele/Addison/Duhaime/Shaw/Extra Dman
    (realistically we need to keep some $ cushion for injury callups and I’d guess they would want 1 additional veteran defenseman signed to the minimum)

    My guess at their aav’s:
    Gaudreau = $3-3.5
    Gustafson = $2-3
    Steele = $2-3
    Addison = $3
    Duhaime = $1.5-2
    Shaw = $1

    Extra Vet Defenseman = ?
    Total = $12.5-$14.5 million
    Greenway Traded = +$3 Million
    so obviously 1-2 guys won’t be re-signed unless GMBG can negotiate the lower end of $ projections. Perhaps GMBG can trade Greenway and get a cheap Veteran Defenseman back as part of the return package and that player fills the Vet D void?

    I’m thinking the following:

    Greenway and Addison are traded in the offseason, Reaves isn’t re-signed…I’ll out go on a limb that Gaudreau isn’t re-signed just based on available capspace and him likely looking for $3+ aav, obviously Deano will fight that decision. They also have the option to cut Goligoski and save $1.33, but it would require signing another defenseman…

    Kaprizov – Steele – Zuccarello
    Boldy – Rossi – Walker
    Hartman – Ek – Foligno
    Shaw – Dewar – Duhaime

    Spurgeon – Middleton
    Brodin – Faber
    Merrill – Signed Vet?/Goligoski?/Hunt/

    Flower/Gustafson

    Umy
    South Metro
    Posts: 1954
    #2174287

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>JoeMX1825 wrote:</div>
    Its been interesting to read comments from national media regarding Boldy’s deal today… many seem to think it was an absolute overpay… lots of if Bomdy got $7, then Caufield deserves $8 and so on and so on…

    Boldy is almost a Point Per Game player after 80 or so career games, and he’s only going to get better… i’m fine with $7aav

    But what does Anson Carter think about this?

    But what do we CARE about what Anson Carter thinks about this?! He’s at his buddy Jussi Smollets house canoodling right now probably.

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