2022/2023 NHL/Wild Offseason-Season-Postseason Thread

  • Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11447
    #2173491

    Greenway can be an absolute beast and a menace to play against just because of his size and skating. He just doesn’t bring it consistently enough. He can be a beast along the boards again just not consistent enough.

    Joe that is the issue with Hartman. You said insert 2 centers. Well at the moment there are not 2 centers. He can play center if need be. I also think Foligno is done in 2 years or less so in you other scenario EK only has one wing.

    I like Reavo as a person and locker room guy. He grew on me a bit.
    As an actual player I just don’t think he does much.

    wormdunker
    Posts: 574
    #2173492

    Yeah who uses fresh green beans.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17585
    #2173497

    Joe that is the issue with Hartman. You said insert 2 centers. Well at the moment there are not 2 centers. He can play center if need be. I also think Foligno is done in 2 years or less so in you other scenario EK only has one wing.

    I think GMBG’s hope is that in a year or so we can trade/sign a legit center option for Kirill and Zuccy and then Rossi develops enough to take over the 2C spot. Then if all goes well Rossi takes over 1C in a few years or we have enough capspace after the penalities to afford a top FA center if available…

    The old excuse of we don’t need a true 1C because our wingers drive the play just doesn’t hold water anymore…GMBG knows this and his hope is he can get one after next season’s cap hell…

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11447
    #2173511

    Don’t disagree with the thought but easier said than done for a 1C.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17585
    #2173517

    Don’t disagree with the thought but easier said than done for a 1C.

    well, it appears Horvat is available, it would require alot of moves to free up the salary needed to afford him next year, but it could be done. We could also try to get an established 2C from a team already set at 1C (we’re going to need to overpay though)… I mean we currently have a 1C who wasn’t offered a minimal RFA offer from one of the worst teams in the league, so it can only get better…

    Agreed teams dont want to get rid of centers, so its a daunting task for sure…

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11447
    #2173557

    I see no scenario that they could afford Horvat. Especially after he puts up 40 plus this year.

    lindyrig79
    Forest Lake / Lake Mille Lacs
    Posts: 5747
    #2173560

    When are we done with the Parise/Suter noose?

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17585
    #2173575

    When are we done with the Parise/Suter noose?

    the next 2 seasons the caphit is almost $15 million then it’s like $1.6 million for 3 more years. The NHL salary cap is expected to increase $1 million next season, then jump about $4 million the following season and another $4-$5 million the year after that…

    The cap rising after next season will allow us some flexibility for the final big caphit year… but next year will suck capwise….

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17585
    #2173577

    Shutout for Jesper Wallstedt tonight, his numbers lately are just ridiculous…

    icex
    Posts: 235
    #2173608

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Ripjiggen wrote:</div>
    Don’t disagree with the thought but easier said than done for a 1C.

    well, it appears Horvat is available, it would require alot of moves to free up the salary needed to afford him next year, but it could be done. We could also try to get an established 2C from a team already set at 1C (we’re going to need to overpay though)… I mean we currently have a 1C who wasn’t offered a minimal RFA offer from one of the worst teams in the league, so it can only get better…

    Agreed teams dont want to get rid of centers, so its a daunting task for sure…

    So there are moves that could be made to bring in Horvat but it was beyond any comprehension that there were any number of moves that could be made to keep Fiala? Fiala was almost as good as having a 1C for 97 and 36 as he took a lot of defensive pressure off that line. Boldy is still playing well but it’s obvious he was better with Fiala. This was just a better team with Fiala on it.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17585
    #2173617

    Having a legit 1C is way more important than a scoring 2nd line winger and from an organization/cap standpoint much more valuable. These trade ideas are all hypotheticals assuming the player even wants to play for the Wild, Fiala obviously didnt…does Horvat? No idea…

    I dont think you’ll ever find somebody who doesnt think the Wild would be better with Fiala, he and his wife just wanted to be in sunny LA…

    If Boldy turns into a top scoring winger and commands a $8-$9 aav in 3 years and Kirill’s next contract commands $13-$14 aav, it would be difficult to afford everybody else if we still had Fiala signed for 4 more years at almost $8aav…

    Lastly the decision to not offer a big contract to Fiala was done during flat cap years and with the pending big Parise & Suter cap penalties about to kick in… so maybe they errored on the side of caution a bit?

    I personally think the Fiala/Wild relationship was severed years earlier when we wouldn’t just had him a huge contract after 1 good season after he had nothing but streaky seasons beforehand… so we could have offered him 8 x $9 and he probably still would have said no…. I also think his recent marriage to an inspiring model played a bigger role in the move to LA decision than people think…

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11447
    #2173630

    Agree they would have needed that money for 1 and 2 centers at some point either way.

    Sounds like they are working on the bridge deal with Boldy. Would be nice to get that done so they can see where they are at.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17585
    #2173645

    Agree they would have needed that money for 1 and 2 centers at some point either way.

    Sounds like they are working on the bridge deal with Boldy. Would be nice to get that done so they can see where they are at.

    yeah, i’m really curious what Boldy will get for 2 years, we’ll see how good GMBG is in terms of selling the “for the team” sales pitch…. I could see Boldy signing anywhere between $3-$6 million aav

    On the other side, Boldy and his agent know exactly how tight the Wild are against the cap the next 2 years (there’s no secrets or fudged numbers) but then how much of a surplus they’ll have afterwards to spend on his 8 year max deal…

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17585
    #2173706

    I’m sorry, but Hartman just isn’t good anymore… unless there’s an undisclosed injury he’s dealing with, his game has fallen off a cliff…

    Sami Walker would be a better option imo…

    AK Guy
    Posts: 1367
    #2173708

    I’m sorry, but Hartman just isn’t good anymore… unless there’s an undisclosed injury he’s dealing with, his game has fallen off a cliff…

    Sami Walker would be a better option imo…

    I like your take.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11447
    #2173713

    I’m sorry, but Hartman just isn’t good anymore… unless there’s an undisclosed injury he’s dealing with, his game has fallen off a cliff…

    Sami Walker would be a better option imo…

    I’m sorry, but Hartman just isn’t good anymore… unless there’s an undisclosed injury he’s dealing with, his game has fallen off a cliff…

    Sami Walker would be a better option imo…

    I don’t think the injury is undisclosed is it? I mean there were talks of him missing months maybe the season.

    I do like walkers speed.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22306
    #2173714

    Didn’t Hartman just score 2 goals recently? He’s not terrible but I too would love to see Walker get some run.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11447
    #2173716

    He did and is on pace for 50 points, and since Joe said he sucks I’m betting he scores tonight.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17585
    #2173721

    Its his skating thats the issue, not his shooting which would be understandable with his shoulder injury… he just cant keep up with the play is what I’ve been seeing…

    Made a nice play on that PP goal though…

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22306
    #2173722

    Joe most of your posts lead to like 20 more posts by others I see what you’re doing. Consider yourself exposed! LOL

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17585
    #2173725

    Joe most of your posts lead to like 20 more posts by others I see what you’re doing. Consider yourself exposed! LOL

    huh???

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17585
    #2173728

    Lol, Kaprizov is pissed that one got taken away…

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17120
    #2173872

    Minnesota is expected to put in a bid to host the World Juniors in 2026.

    Preliminary games could be played at existing college venues with adequate capacity and video replay such as St Cloud, Duluth, and Mankato, while larger capacity stadiums such as Mariucci and Xcel could be used for the medal round or games expected to have more fans in attendance (such as USA vs Canada).

    The last local site to host this event was in 2005 when Grand Forks and Thief River Falls were the venues.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17585
    #2173894

    Kevin Weekes is reporting the Wild & Boldy are close to signing a 7 year extension… if its true, no idea how they can afford that likely $7+ aav without trading Greenway and Hartman for next season…

    Weekes is typically pretty accurate on these breaking stories, but it just makes so much more sense for Boldy to sign a 2 year bridge deal and then max out an 8 year deal when the cap is significantly higher…

    Update – Joe Smith reporting it as well, so there’s smoke…

    icex
    Posts: 235
    #2173904

    I’d say Boldy is leaving some money on the table. But we don’t know his ceiling yet either he may be at it now no way of knowing.

    Tom schmitt
    Posts: 1014
    #2173905

    I’ll give Greenway a little slack for his inconsistent play this year as he playing with a reinjured surgically repaired shoulder.
    Hartman has a shoulder injury.
    Boldy needs to improve a bit before I would roll out a wheelbarrow full of money.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17585
    #2173908

    I’m surprised Boldy’s camp would be open to a long term deal vs 2, but if GMBG can figure out how to fit $7aav under the cap next year, it will likely be a bargain deal in a few years…

    Boldy’s camp is likely thinking a 7 year deal opens up another long term max deal to sign while he’s still under 30 years old…

    Boldy has all the tools and talent to be a 1st line winger/ borderline all star in the NHL. The 2 things he needs to improve on is his 1 timer and being more selfish shooting the puck, both easy things to fix.
    Getting him help on the 2nd line is likely the Wild’s top priority in addition to finding a 1C. Wild brass hoping Rossi turns into the answer at 2C, I think they’ve realized/accepted that they’ll need to trade/sign a 1C at some point in the future, they still dont have anybody in the system…

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11026
    #2173937

    Confirmed. Boldy signed. 7 years $7 Million aav.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11447
    #2173943

    Hartman makes 1.7. You are not saving a whole lot by trading him and replacing him. I would think Foligno could be a candidate with a year left at 3.1
    Boldy comps are between 6 and 8. It’s a little risky not doing a bridge but he seems to have the right mindset to improve as a player. Obviously they would know more about this then us arm chair GM’s on IDO. jester

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