2022/2023 NHL/Wild Offseason-Season-Postseason Thread

  • JoeMX1825
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    #2165704

    Vancouver gambled that Horvat’s 31 goals last year was a fluke and he’d revert back to the career average 55 point guy and justify a $6.5-$7 million aav. He’s on pace for 50+ goals this year and its driving his asking price to the $8.5-$9aav range and they are stuck now with others needing big raises soon (Petterson, Kuzmenko, Hoglander)

    Kinda sounds familiar hey Wild fans

    It will be interesting to see if Vancouver can get a 2023 lottery 1st round pick back without any top 5 protection on it…

    JoeMX1825
    MN
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    #2165710

    Well except for Ryan Hartman devil
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    You can bet the talking track from GMBG will be that we dont need a trade anymore as we’re already getting a 1C back from injury…

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8723
    #2165713

    It will be interesting to see if Vancouver can get a 2022 lottery 1st round pick back without any top 5 protection on it…

    Would be pretty tough to get last year’s 1st jester

    If he moves I bet they get something similar to the Taylor Hall package. What non-playoff team is going to trade for him to get that lottery 1st? Plus a non-protected 1st is a pipe-dream, there will be some kind of protection on every future 1st that gets moved for as long as the current CBA is around.

    tswoboda
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    #2165714

    You can bet the talking track from GMBG will be that we dont need a trade anymore as we’re already getting a 1C back from injury…

    Or calling up Rossi from Iowa or the kid from the Gophers. Either way that’s the most brutal quote from GM’s when they say their deadline deal is an injured player coming back or a minor league call-up. I don’t think we’ve heard it from Billy G yet but I’m sure it’s coming.

    Sounds like Duhaime (concussion??) might be back later this week, guessing he plays with Boldy or on of Shaw/Dewar gets elevated. If they’re ever fully healthy Duhaime-Dewar-Shaw is going to be a fun 4th line. Depth scoring could be the difference for this so far middling team.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
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    #2165717

    I think Taylor Hall had full trade protection and could name his teams vs Horvat has none… thats why the Hall return was so low…

    Ripjiggen
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    #2165719

    Yeah don’t see a bottom team trading for him knowing he could just walk from them at the end of the season as well. Those teams are trying to win a sweepstakes.

    Who knows maybe if they can dump Brock before that they can up their offer.

    tswoboda
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    #2165723

    My bad, meant the 2nd Hall trade where he went to the Yotes. Was a pretty big package of picks and mid level prospects for a rental.

    Every team that misses playoffs is in the lottery so that’s 16 teams. No one is trading a non protected pick, not happening.

    tswoboda
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    #2165725

    Who knows maybe if they can dump Brock before that they can up their offer.

    That’s what I expect to happen. Could also see them moving JT Miller.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
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    #2165728

    I could see a team like Anaheim trading for Horvat with the full intention of signing him to an extension. It gives Horvat the ability to sign a 8 year deal vs 7 if he goes the UFA route… as mentioned his UFA team choices will likely be limited to a non-contender as his new AAV will be hard to puzzle piece into their existing cap structure, but teams could be willing to worry about that afterwards if it meant they could shore up their 1C spot (Wild included)

    tswoboda
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    #2165732

    I could see a team like Anaheim trading for Horvat with the full intention of signing him to an extension.

    Horvat for Ducks unprotected 1st in 2023?!?! You’re on drugs.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
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    #2165734

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>JoeMX1825 wrote:</div>
    I could see a team like Anaheim trading for Horvat with the full intention of signing him to an extension.

    Horvat for Ducks unprotected 1st in 2023?!?! You’re on drugs.

    scrap Anaheim, I forgot Zegras plays center and they also have Mason McTavish, so a longterm 1C likely isnt a big need vs other positions… I agree no bottom 5 team is going to exclude top 5 protection, especially in this draft…

    The rebuild teams likely have a pool of top prospects that could be included in a trade instead of a 2023 1st round pick, especially on defense, a big area of need for Vancouver and the only position weak in the next draft…

    Ripjiggen
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    #2165736

    Not to mention stunting the growth of the top two centers they just drafted.

    Never mind you caught it. Lol

    Ripjiggen
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    #2165756

    Stay out of the box tonight boys.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
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    #2165757

    Getting chances is great and all, but Walker needs to start at least getting shots on net!

    JoeMX1825
    MN
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    #2165761

    That’s an iffy challenge, especially since it would put their PP back out…

    So the video review guys are praised as genius’s when they get one right, they need to be called out for the stupidity in that one…

    Ripjiggen
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    #2165762

    What is Dean doing? You are going to risk a long shot replay to put the best PP in the history of the game back in the ice.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
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    #2165763

    What is Dean doing? You are going to risk a long shot replay to put the best PP in the history of the game.

    its our video review guys call, Deano defers to them, they tell him to challenge or not…

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 23377
    #2165764

    Terrible decision to challenge that Deano.

    tswoboda
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    #2165765

    Can’t challenge against this team unless it’s 100%

    CaptainMusky
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    #2165769

    Walker is the perfect opposite wing for boldy that kid can fly and has some skill. Freddy is a bit of a sled with those two.

    Ripjiggen
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    #2165770

    Walker is the perfect opposite wing for boldy that kid can fly and has some skill. Freddy is a bit of a sled with those two.

    Or is he perfect because we don’t have a better option. jester

    CaptainMusky
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    #2165774

    Or is he perfect because we don’t have a better option. jester

    I see what you did there but I think he is a perfect option for where we are right now. Speed and skill.

    Ripjiggen
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    #2165779

    He has shown some speed and wiggle for sure. See if he can take advantage of his situation. Duhaime back soon.

    tswoboda
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    #2165781

    He’s definitely dynamic off the rush. Haven’t seen him really do anything else but just that alone makes him better than anyone else we’ve seen there.

    tswoboda
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    #2165783

    That was nasty from Boldy

    2A for Walker!

    CaptainMusky
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    #2165784

    Freddy redeams himself but he owes Dumba Manny’s.

    Ripjiggen
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    #2165785

    Fabulous Fred is so weird. When he scores they are usually really legit nice goals. Just enough for you to go man if he could just score a few more, but he doesn’t.

    Moose looks terribly slow right now.

    tswoboda
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    #2165786

    Dumba did that to himself with the chip pass right on the blue line. Offsides challenge four minutes after the zone entry is so dumb

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