2022/2023 NHL/Wild Offseason-Season-Postseason Thread

  • JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17921
    #2153239

    but Fleury is lauded in this thread like he’s still a Vezina winning caliber goalie and he’s just NOT that guy anymore. And no, we don’t have a better option, but that’s because we signed Fleury in the first place. BG made his own bed on this one. My only complaint of him so far.

    I don’t think Flower’s game has dropped very much from his Vezina season 2 years ago, he stopped EVERY shot he faced in preason other than a Joe Paveski goal off a leg in the crease (I agree its a small sample size against non full nhl rosters, but it’s what there is to go by) I didn’t have a problem with his playoff performances last year, majority of his goals given up were powerplay goals, he’ll give up the odd bad goal here or there like he has his entire career just based on his playstyle. He’s owned up to his bad play the first 2 games this season, but I think only 3 of those goals were “on him” the rest were mostly due to everyone “Playing defense like a F’ing junior team” – per Zuccy)…

    Flower is a 2 year stopgap solution until Wallstedt is ready (at least that’s what GMBG and his scouts appear to be banking on) There’s ZERO chance you can find another quality starting goalie option willing to sign for 2 years at the cap number the Wild needed to stay within (maybe there could have been a trade solution for an existing starter wiht 2-3 years on their existing contract? but I don’t know of any)…maybe they could have resigned Talbot to a short term extension next offseason, maybe they didn’t want to? Maybe they wanted a 1st ballot HOF goalie to be a mentor to Wallstedt? Maybe Talbot wanted no part of a mentorship?

    Like it or not, imo these next 2 seasons are just cap survival years with an emphasis on progressing through the playoff growing pains so they are ready for a full Cup push in 3 seasons, of course the Wild brass are going to say all the right things, that they expect to compete for a cup right now, etc, but there’s no way you can cut 15%+ from your payroll in a hard cap league the next 2 years and expect to win it, you’re missing out on having an additional 2+ truly impactful players available vs replacing them with rookies on ELC’s learning the pro game on the fly…Now the Wild has a solid mixture of existing talent that can challenge for the Division and create the illusion of a cup challenger, but they just aren’t there yet…

    I’ve accepted this reality, i’m just enjoying the ride of watching this team gain experiance, prospects develop and Kaprizov’s insane highlights every game…

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11617
    #2153260

    Bingo… again I would not have been comfortable giving Cam a 3year deal after this season. See if he gets one from Ottawa, but he probably needs to play a game first.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11617
    #2153264

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Ripjiggen wrote:</div>
    Since this site won’t let me quote a quote right now.

    Mahto-I don’t think I bashed you anywhere in my post. Sorry you feel that way.
    They needed to sign a second goalie either way. Flower was the best of the bunch that would sign even remotely close to that.
    Cam is the one that did not want any part of that rotation.

    You weren’t bashing me. I got it from you guys last season for saying I didn’t think they should’ve signed Fleury because I didn’t think he was any good anymore. I’m just preparing myself. mrgreen

    I’m also not saying the sky is falling here, but Fleury is lauded in this thread like he’s still a Vezina winning caliber goalie and he’s just NOT that guy anymore. And no, we don’t have a better option, but that’s because we signed Fleury in the first place. BG made his own bed on this one. My only complaint of him so far.

    Then Middleton wouldn’t be on the team.
    You can definitely argue how they played the rotation in the playoffs, but they basically traded Kappo for Middleton and Flower.

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11038
    #2153293

    I have a feeling they got pretty proud of themselves after going 6-1 or whatever it was during the preseason.

    Glad the wake up call is now opposed to later on down the road. Between the D and the average goaltending it’s most likely going to be an up and down season.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22854
    #2153321

    Addison do that more often what a play.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11617
    #2153322

    Tough bounce on the 1st goal.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17921
    #2153327

    I like the energy sofar! Wild still losing more small puck battles than winning though… Jost looks jacked up…

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11617
    #2153329

    Hartman might be the ne whipping boy. He has looked terrible so far this year.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17921
    #2153330

    Man… its just one of those stretches right now when it seems like what can go wrong, will go wrong… at least we’re generating offense though!
    Our new 4th line bringing the energy like they should be…

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17921
    #2153334

    How doesn’t Spurgeon chop Rantanen’s ankle off after taking that cheap cross check to the lower back! For F sakes stick up for yourself!

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11038
    #2153335

    Hartman might be the ne whipping boy. He has looked terrible so far this year.

    Looks so slow it’s like he’s injured or something. This fourth line with Shaw on it looks really good. Not a good look for Rossi, although I never liked him on that line anyway. Either play him in Iowa or get him on a scoring line.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22854
    #2153336

    Hartman might be the ne whipping boy. He has looked terrible so far this year.

    Hartman is absolutely terrible right now and that’s kind.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17921
    #2153337

    I don’t think Rossi will get back into the Wild lineup until Steel comes out of it…

    As mentioned, his style game has no place on the 4th line… tonights 4th line has 1 goal when they’re on the ice, cause havok on the forecheck… I think the Dewey’s changed their games a bit with Rossi…

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17921
    #2153339

    Other than 2 speedy neutral zone rushes that got poke-checked, I haven’t notice MacKinnon tonight..

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17921
    #2153340

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Ripjiggen wrote:</div>
    Hartman might be the ne whipping boy. He has looked terrible so far this year.

    Hartman is absolutely terrible right now and that’s kind.

    He looks like a guy who destroyed his personal best offensive output last season and now feels the weight of the world on his shoulders to do it again this year…

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11038
    #2153341

    Man, at least the PP is going strong. Beautiful deflection by stone hands.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11617
    #2153343

    My gawd do they have terrible puck luck right now.

    AK Guy
    Posts: 1396
    #2153348

    My gawd do they have terrible puck luck right now.

    Made up for it with the KK power play goal.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17921
    #2153349

    Good lord what a bonehead move to have too many on the ice during a delayed penalty… Boldy should have given up the puck to get a 4 on 3 powerplay though…

    Mental mistakes…

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11617
    #2153351

    I’m alright keeping possession there with only 40 seconds left but yeah bonehead move on the too many men.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11617
    #2153353

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Ripjiggen wrote:</div>
    My gawd do they have terrible puck luck right now.

    Made up for it with the KK power play goal.

    Kind of but not really.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17921
    #2153354

    I’m alright keeping possession there with only 40 seconds left but yeah bonehead move on the too many men.

    4-3 is a way better powerplay vs 5-4

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17921
    #2153355

    20 goals given up in 3 games…. Lol

    I saw some positives though, hopefully they burned through their season allotment of crazy bounce goals given up…

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22854
    #2153356

    Avs should have never been on that PP. Ek was tripped then the Avs get a PP GTFOOH. Then the refs waive off an obvious icing?! Come one terrible officiating not helping the bad puck luck.

    jbg1219
    NW Iowa
    Posts: 654
    #2153357

    So, the only thing that got me thru the last month of baseball was looking forward to Wild hockey… And this is what I get! I normally save spinner rig tying for February when there is nothing to watch on TV except hockey, but if this keeps up I will have them done before we get ice on the lake!

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11617
    #2153360

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Ripjiggen wrote:</div>
    I’m alright keeping possession there with only 40 seconds left but yeah bonehead move on the too many men.

    4-3 is a way better powerplay vs 5-4

    Agreed but at the time they had possession in the off zone. I am ok trying to keep that possession in the ozone vs giving up possession with only 40 seconds.

    Either way i guess they get the bad stretch of hockey out of the way early.🤷‍♂️

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17921
    #2153361

    So, the only thing that got me thru the last month of baseball was looking forward to Wild hockey… And this is what I get! I normally save spinner rig tying for February when there is nothing to watch on TV except hockey, but if this keeps up I will have them done before we get ice on the lake!

    its only 3 games, they just gave up a seasons worth of crazy goals in 1 game against the champs… Powerplay is on fire, Kaprizov is on fire… we just need average goaltending to start winning games and unfortunately we’ve had about as bad as it can get sofar… They’ll win on Thursday…

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11038
    #2153363

    Russo is lighting up the goaltending and the way they are treating Rossi right now on his live chat. I thought Gustaffson was average tonight (which is an improvement over the first two games) but I think he should’ve been able to corral that dump in that bounced off of him for a goal.

    I don’t understand why they won’t give Rossi a shot in the top six. Jost didn’t look great tonight on the top line and you’re 0-3. Give the kid a shot.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11617
    #2153367

    He may actually get sent down once greenway is back.
    Having him watching in press box or playing 4th line and under five minutes last game is dumb.

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