2022/2023 NHL/Wild Offseason-Season-Postseason Thread

  • Ripjiggen
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    #2147895

    He just turned 27 this month. Not that crazy to play till you are 34-35. It is the NHL max anybody under 30 that is elite will get 8 years. Hell Crosby is 35 would you pay him 12.5 million this year to be on the wild. I sure as hell would.
    KK will be almost 2 years older when he signs for 8.
    Or I guess 7 if he goes elsewhere.
    McDavid the same.

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8534
    #2147922

    Really thought Mackinnon would take a deal after Makar did last summer, but he did the opposite and made a point of being the highest paid. He’s one of the few players that’s truly worth a blank check, but I could see injuries bringing a steep decline in a couple years.

    Matthews is up next – I bet he’s shooting for the first max contract. Will be around $17m AAV.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
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    #2147928

    Really thought Mackinnon would take a deal after Makar did last summer, but he did the opposite and made a point of being the highest paid. He’s one of the few players that’s truly worth a blank check, but I could see injuries bringing a steep decline in a couple years.

    Matthews is up next – I bet he’s shooting for the first max contract. Will be around $17m AAV.

    I think in the current CBA, Mathews will get around $15 million aav based on his goal scoring track record (There should be more clarity of what future cap increases look like by the time he’s due to re-sign, so it could end up being a lot more than that if the cap jumps significantly) McDavid will set the new bar (maxed out) when he signs with a top 3 market in 3 years (my money is on the Rangers, but LA’s Anze Kopitar $10 million aav deal expires at the same time, so they’ll have $ to temp Mathews out to the West Coast)

    It will be interesting to see if Mathews wants to stick with the Leafs, even when they offer him the MAX allowed, he could take home an extra $2-$3 a year if he picks a US market with no income tax (although the extra endorsement money in Toronto can more than make up for that). IF Mathews tells the Leafs he’ll be leaving, that final season in Toronto will be an absolute media madhouse…

    brandmoney
    Posts: 282
    #2147972

    I still hope Matthews signs close to home in Arizona

    brandmoney
    Posts: 282
    #2147973

    Would anyone be interested in joining a fantasy hockey league?

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8534
    #2147977

    Matthews is up 2 years before McDavid so that will set the new ‘highest paid player’ bar. It’ll be interesting to see if he takes the full 8 years this time or is smart again and signs somewhere for like 3 years so he can sign another ‘highest paid player’ contract the year after McDavid signs his new deal. The gap between McDavid and Matthews isn’t very big right now – Matthews just scored 60 goals in 70 games and placed 10th in the freaking SELKE in the same season. If he can repeat something close to that then there’s a legit argument who’s the more valuable player. Also Matthews is signing his next deal at age 26 compared to McDavid being 29 when he signs.

    The Superstars taking shorter term makes a lot more sense for them to have max leverage and get raises every couple years.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
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    #2147991

    Matthews is up 2 years before McDavid so that will set the new ‘highest paid player’ bar. It’ll be interesting to see if he takes the full 8 years this time or is smart again and signs somewhere for like 3 years so he can sign another ‘highest paid player’ contract the year after McDavid signs his new deal. The gap between McDavid and Matthews isn’t very big right now – Matthews just scored 60 goals in 70 games and placed 10th in the freaking SELKE in the same season. If he can repeat something close to that then there’s a legit argument who’s the more valuable player. Also Matthews is signing his next deal at age 26 compared to McDavid being 29 when he signs.

    The Superstars taking shorter term makes a lot more sense for them to have max leverage and get raises every couple years.

    agreed, especially with the cap expected to go up $1 million each of the next 2 years, then $4-$6 million in 3 years and then likely $2 each consecutive year…There is risk of injury forcing an early retirement though, that’s why you’ll still see the majority of guys taking the max 8…

    but McDavid will always be the top paid player (if they were both UFA’s at the same time) Mathews is awesome, but he’s always paired with another world class player (Marner) Connor doesn’t get that luxury until PP or OT and then he and Draisiatl completely dominate…It works out for both players as each pushes the AAV bar higher each contract they sign…They UFA market in 2026/2027 will be absolutely bonkers…

    tswoboda
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    #2148004

    McDavid/Matthews is so similar Sid/Ovi. They just aren’t in the same division so we don’t get all the head to head matchups. Maybe someday.

    You have the good Canada boy with zero personality who is the best player in the world and the non-Canadian with a big personality who is the best goal scorer in the world.

    CaptainMusky
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    #2148022

    Fiala’s life in Cali isnt starting out so well. He just posted photos on Instagram that he ran out of gas on the road. LOL

    JoeMX1825
    MN
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    #2148045

    Bill Daly did an interview with Russo and said the players are paying off the covid escrow alot faster than originally thought (2 years earlier than originally projected) he said the cap will go up $1 million next year and then jump significantly (probably $4-7 million) the year after and will then be directly tied to league revenues moving forward.

    This is great news for the Wild as it then opens up significant cap the final year of the big buyout caphits they never planned on having…

    It gives GMBG a few more options now in terms of signing players…

    JoeMX1825
    MN
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    #2148054

    Greenway weighed in at 241 lbs today… that seems alot higher than previous years right???

    Kaprizov came in at 211

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11605
    #2148055

    Bill Daly did an interview with Russo and said the players are paying off the covid escrow alot faster than originally thought (2 years earlier than originally projected) he said the cap will go up $1 million next year and then jump significantly (probably $4-7 million) the year after and will then be directly tied to league revenues moving forward.

    This is great news for the Wild as it then opens up significant cap the final year of the big buyout caphits they never planned on having…

    It gives GMBG a few more options now in terms of signing players…

    Or it just gives other teams that much more to pull away talent wise from the wild.

    Ripjiggen
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    #2148057

    Greenway weighed in at 241 lbs today… that seems alot higher than previous years right???

    Kaprizov came in at 211

    I am sure he is a bit chubbier now with being hurt and probably not training as much. Or he has been playing a lot of video games.

    CaptainMusky
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    #2148097

    I am sure he is a bit chubbier now with being hurt and probably not training as much. Or he has been playing a lot of video games.

    That certainly doesnt bode well for him. Before he really dedicated himself he was nowhere near what he was last year. Lets hope its muscle. Any word on what the injury was? I heard a couple surgeries so perhaps a sports hernia or something?

    tswoboda
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    #2148098

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    JoeMX1825
    MN
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    #2148119

    Question posed to the group for discussion – Why not play Kirill for the entire 2 minute powerplay (ala Ovechkin)

    I realize Ovi mostly sits on the boards for 1 timers and therefor isn’t exhausting himself the full 2 minutes, but keeping your best player on the ice the ENTIRE powerplay can only make it better right? especially with a player like Kirill who makes everyone better on the ice…

    Kinda strange that Ovi is really the only player in the NHL that does it??

    CaptainMusky
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    #2148132

    Considering the conditioning that KK is likely in he could certainly do it.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
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    #2148181

    Wild’s name being thrown around in the Jacob Chychrun rumors again…if we could do the deal without giving up our 2023 1st round pick I’d be intrigued…

    Would a Dumba (+ some retained salary by the Wild) + Lambos + a 2023 2nd round pick be enough to get it done? (Arizona would likely unload Dumba at the deadline for a good pick)

    Just looking at the existing D and the Term and NMC they all have on their deals, Faber likely to sign in April, there’s likely no place for Lambos on the roster in the next 3-4 years…

    CaptainMusky
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    #2148194

    Where did you see that about Chychryn? He would be interesting, I just dont know if it would work beyond his current contract. It is a bargain right now. When its up we would have more cap space so maybe. We are going to need to move some of those D prospects because there is no sense keeping them when there isnt room.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
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    #2148201

    Where did you see that about Chychryn? He would be interesting, I just dont know if it would work beyond his current contract. It is a bargain right now. When its up we would have more cap space so maybe. We are going to need to move some of those D prospects because there is no sense keeping them when there isnt room.

    He just did a media interview and said he wants out of Arizona, naturally the Wild are included in possible landing spots due to his low caphit and Dumba being in the last year of his deal…his current deal goes past the cap penalties, so we’d have the space to easily extend him if it made sense…imo its all about what would need to be given up to get him, I’m fine unloading some of our D prospects, just don’t want to give up next years 1st unless it’s top15 protected…

    CaptainMusky
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    #2148203

    I know he wants out, but I hadnt seen anywhere about the Wild being linked or rumored. I mean, they would likely be an option, but was just curious if there was any steam to it.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
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    #2148218

    I know he wants out, but I hadnt seen anywhere about the Wild being linked or rumored. I mean, they would likely be an option, but was just curious if there was any steam to it.

    I think he & the Wild were brought up several times last year (mostly from Russo) due to his ties playing with Duhaime as kids in Florida hockey, the Wild’s need for value contracts to help compete these next 3 tough cap years, the Wild’s need for more offensive & physical defenseman… honestly the last 2 traits apply to pretty much all NHL teams…

    Ripjiggen
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    #2148230

    Yeah just not seeing it. Not sure why they would trade for a position that they have the most depth at. I also have a hard time seeing them move Dumba during camp.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
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    #2148232

    Yeah just not seeing it. Not sure why they would trade for a position that they have the most depth at. I also have a hard time seeing them move Dumba during camp.

    I think the price is just going to be outrageous… Wild will need a top 4 D-man next year unless Faber can step right into it though (thats a big ask)

    Ripjiggen
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    #2148234

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Ripjiggen wrote:</div>
    Yeah just not seeing it. Not sure why they would trade for a position that they have the most depth at. I also have a hard time seeing them move Dumba during camp.

    I think the price is just going to be outrageous… Wild will need a top 4 D-man next year unless Faber can step right into it (thats a big ask)

    Sure but then you have Merril Goose Faber and Addy for two spots the following year. You think Dumba has the yotes on his 10 team wish list?

    May as well move Addy then as he would have 0 space on this team.

    Big ask of Faber? maybe but buy all accounts that seems to be the exactly where he slots at a minimum and I think that is exactly why the trade went down as easy and quickly as it did because that is exactly where the wild saw him.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
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    #2148244

    Goose can be easily bought out next year at a minumal cost for 2 years…Merril is good injury insurance on a decent deal…Addison is under team control for like 4 more years, we can give him a small raise next year if needed, if he explodes and deserves a bigger deal, then great! thats a good problem to have…Faber will be on a ELC for 2 full seasons, he’ll also be waiver elidgible…

    Ripjiggen
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    #2148251

    Dumba having the yotes on his ten team list is about as likely as the Wild getting the number one pick next year.

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