2022/2023 NHL/Wild Offseason-Season-Postseason Thread

  • Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11597
    #2199669

    They can only do so much to change the lineup.
    Not much help on the way outside of possibly Rossi.
    It is uncanny how how similar this series was to last seasons.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17872
    #2199670

    They can only do so much to change the lineup.
    Not much help on the way outside of possibly Rossi.
    It is uncanny how how similar this series was to last seasons.

    yeah, I’m mostly talking about changing the coaches and philosophy of the special teams, we were clueless on special teams and undisciplined all season… those are coaching issues…

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11597
    #2199671

    Well…We didn’t get shut out 2 games in a row. That’s your official Wild Moral Victory. Yep, that is all.

    Nothing from our top players. Nothing.

    Wet, limp, gawdawful play. Worthless power play and Deano looks like Mike Yeo, dazed, confused and out of ideas.

    Rebuild time. Keep going forward without making big changes and we’ll just keep getting R1 exits.

    Hate to break it to you but the core is kind of locked up for a while.

    basseyes
    Posts: 2513
    #2199672

    Dean’s answer to everything, well that’s what we do. They beat Dallas twice and were up 2 games to 1. Same players, same coach. He got out coached 3 straight games in a row. I’m done with Dean.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11597
    #2199673

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Ripjiggen wrote:</div>
    They can only do so much to change the lineup.
    Not much help on the way outside of possibly Rossi.
    It is uncanny how how similar this series was to last seasons.

    yeah, I’m mostly talking about changing the coaches and philosophy of the special teams, we were clueless on special teams and undisciplined all season… those are coaching issues…

    Don’t disagree but I don’t think Dean is gone. Maybe the rest of the staff or part of it.

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8521
    #2199674

    It is uncanny how how similar this series was to last seasons.

    This is exactly why I say Deano’s seat is getting warm

    I’d be shocked if it happens this summer but if there’s bumps in the road early next year there will be a lot of chatter around Dean. Maybe this AHL Iowa position will be an audition… interesting to see who they get there.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11597
    #2199676

    Oh for sure it’s getting warm.

    icex
    Posts: 235
    #2199678

    Read somewhere last week how Evason’s record in the playoffs his entire coaching career is abysmal. But nobody in any league anywhere can scowl on the bench like Deano. Right?

    It’s like he freezes in the playoffs. He does not want to change anything for fear of doing something wrong. Deano is not going anywhere. The next question in my mind is does KK go back to Russia this off season and if he does does he come back?

    Oh well I’ll let you hockey surgeons do the postmortem autopsy.

    weedis
    Sauk Rapids, MN
    Posts: 1361
    #2199679

    The major sports teams in town all must be having a contest who can loose the most first round series in a row. The futility continues, Looserville USA!

    Netguy
    Minnetonka
    Posts: 3175
    #2199704

    The MN teams playoff glory or lack thereof.

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    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11597
    #2199708

    Wild have a bit of an identity crisis going on. Last year they wanted to be fast and skilled. Got beat up by the Blues.
    Tried to go big and be the ruff and tumble team this year. Problem with that is the one position you need that to be effective is up the middle. Without EK they were really not so big and tough down the middle of the ice and got exposed by more speed and skill.
    Unfortunately change up the middle is going to be awhile.

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17426
    #2199723

    They finished pretty much right where I expected them to during the regular season. If I remember correctly, there seemed to be a consensus here that they would finish in the 3 hole in the central division.

    Special teams are a glaring issue in the post season. Dallas was exceptional in combined special teams and that proved to be a big difference. Game 4 seemed to be the turning point. Up 2-1 with a change to go up 3-1 at home…followed by 2 relative blow outs to end the series.

    The biggest off ice issue here is going to be whether Kaprisov goes home to his family in Russia, and if he makes it back. If I was Guerin, I’d really press him to just stay here this off season because there is a real likelihood he does not make it back if he goes.

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17426
    #2199724

    Can you imagine the uproar in Boston if the record breaking Bruins lose to the Panthers in round 1? Get out your pitch forks.

    stout93
    Becker MN
    Posts: 967
    #2199726

    Sure I’ll urine off a bunch of folks. But like I said before, the Wild is one of the most overrated franchises in all professional sports.

    They really haven’t had much more success than the T-Wolves, which is probably one of the worst franchises in all professional sports..

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17426
    #2199730

    They really haven’t had much more success than the T-Wolves

    In terms of postseason success, there honestly is probably not a whole lot of difference. See above in Netguy’s post since 2004-2005. Wolves are 25% win percentage in the playoffs and Wild are 33.3% win percentage during that span.

    In terms of overall consistency, its not even close. The Wolves went like 15 years without making the playoffs even once and the Wild have qualified for it 9 out of the last 10 years. Now granted, they lost in the first round during most of those years, but making the playoffs is still better than not. It’s difficult to consistently do that in the NHL where there is good parity.

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11646
    #2199731

    It’s like he freezes in the playoffs. He does not want to change anything for fear of doing something wrong.

    Last year it was just the opposite when he inexplicably decided NOT to play Talbot in the playoffs.

    Deano was Option B for a coach. It was obvious by the way the whole situation unfolded that BG and Craig has designs on someone else and the deal never materialized. So they tear the interim label off of Deano and ta da, he’s a rookie NHL head coach.

    Kaprisov, I would hope, won’t be going back to Russia for his extended vacation. I have to think the Russian players now know this is a risk not worth taking as there are other ways they can see family.

    stout93
    Becker MN
    Posts: 967
    #2199732

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>stout93 wrote:</div>
    They really haven’t had much more success than the T-Wolves

    In terms of postseason success, there honestly is probably not a whole lot of difference. See above in Netguy’s post since 2004-2005. Wolves are 25% win percentage in the playoffs and Wild are 33.3% win percentage during that span.

    In terms of overall consistency, its not even close. The Wolves went like 15 years without making the playoffs even once and the Wild have qualified for it 9 out of the last 10 years. Now granted, they lost in the first round during most of those years, but making the playoffs is still better than not. It’s difficult to consistently do that in the NHL where there is good parity.

    Right, part of my point is there’s this perception (maybe it’s just me) that the Wild are this perennial cup contender year after year and that’s just not the reality.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17872
    #2199739

    Powerplay and Penalty kill is all about coaching. Pretty much EVERY NHL player has spent a significant amount of time during their hockey career on special teams (Youth/Juniors/Minors) just by being one of the best players on their teams… its not like the best of the best players get to the NHL not knowing how to run an Umbrella or Overload Powerplay or know how to defend them…

    Its on the coaching staff to figure out what PP to run that maximizes their teams strengths and counters what strategy the other team uses…

    The Wild have been absolute disaster in this area the last few seasons, this is the area of coaching that absolutely needs to change next season…

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11646
    #2199774

    Sure I’ll urine off a bunch of folks. But like I said before, the Wild is one of the most overrated franchises in all professional sports.

    They really haven’t had much more success than the T-Wolves, which is probably one of the worst franchises in all professional sports..

    I’m not sure how to evaluate most overrated, feel like they are never a sleeper Finals pick, let alone favorite to make the finals. But they are nowhere near TWolves terrible. TWolves have made the playoffs 12 times in 35 years and a career .402 winning percentage 30th in the NBA, Wild have made the playoffs 14 times in 23 years, .588 winning percentage 6th in the NHL.

    fishinfreaks
    Rogers, MN
    Posts: 1154
    #2199799

    When talking about special teams, DeanO, assistant coaches, etc. I’m as disappointed as anyone. But we gotta remember – he’s coaching against teams in the playoffs that aren’t hamstringed with $13m of unavailable payroll. In addition, they lost the most irreplaceable player on the power play, penalty kill, and even 5 on 5 in JEEK. we have 2 more years to hate Parise and Suter and the eff up they were for this team. Dean only has so much to play with. And I’m in no way a Dean apologist, just realistic.

    Charlie W
    TRF / Pool 3 / Grand Rapids, MN / SJU
    Posts: 1176
    #2199806

    “This year was different” – Toronto (probably)

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17872
    #2199840

    Its fun watching the stars for other teams produce and be impactful for their team…

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11597
    #2199844

    “This year was different” – Toronto (probably)

    Terrible take.

    Sure I’ll urine off a bunch of folks. But like I said before, the Wild is one of the most overrated franchises in all professional sports.

    They really haven’t had much more success than the T-Wolves, which is probably one of the worst franchises in all professional sports..

    Another terrible take.
    You are not really comparing any sports franchise to the T wolves are you? They just made one of the worse trades in all of sports according to some and this may not be there worse blunder.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17872
    #2199857

    Wins by Florida and Seattle tonight could improve the Wild’s 1st round pick by 2 spots, we could draft either #22, #21 or #20….I beleive Florida and Seattle would need to get to the Conference Finals for the Wild to actually move up though…

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22813
    #2199866

    Edmonton and Toronto get out of the first round! Imagine if those two teams met in the finals. Canada would explode.

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17426
    #2199877

    Wins by Florida

    If the Panthers win tonight, you could argue that their series win is the single biggest upset in NHL playoff history given that the Bruins had a record-breaking season in the win column.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17872
    #2199880

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>JoeMX1825 wrote:</div>
    Wins by Florida

    If the Panthers win tonight, you could argue that their series win is the single biggest upset in NHL playoff history given that the Bruins had a record-breaking season in the win column.

    Yeah, I think the RedWings many years ago had a president’s club team that lost in the first round (maybe even got swept?)

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17872
    #2199882

    Russo reported that the Team wanted Marco Rossi to stay in MN this summer and work with their strength and skating coaches and he accepted the idea. They felt his offseason training & competition just isn’t good enough in Austria… Kinda sounds like next season will be his prove he’s an NHLer or get traded while he still has value crossroad…

    Gus is GMBG’s top priority to sign obviously, there’s a lot of directions that negotiation can go, including being a possible Offer Sheet target…

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17426
    #2199935

    2-0 Panthers in the 2nd period. Nervous time in Boston.

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11646
    #2199937

    2-0 Panthers in the 2nd period. Nervous time in Boston.

    Yes, squeaky bum time in Boston. Wow.

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