2022/2023 NHL/Wild Offseason-Season-Postseason Thread

Those penalties were both compete dogshit

Refs don’t like Foligno and yeah I guess he brought that on himself

Ha don’t even remember the first one now.

Why even put himself in a position to get called though? What does putting Marchment into the bench solve there?

Misplaced energy/emotion imo

How the af is this a trip?

Hats off to Ottenger, there was his steal… I guess we keep waiting for Kirill to steal one..

Way way too many missed opportunities, and yes Otter played a helluva game. Both of those were weak calls on Moose imo.

Oettinger definitely was the difference tonight.

Played a pretty good game, just couldn’t finish on the many chances they had.

Ugh. Major swing tonight. Feel like we just gave away the series… again. Painful

JoeMX1825 wrote:

Why even put himself in a position to get called though? What does putting Marchment into the bench solve there?

Misplaced energy/emotion imo

This take is as good as that penalty call

tswoboda wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>JoeMX1825 wrote:</div>
Why even put himself in a position to get called though? What does putting Marchment into the bench solve there?

Misplaced energy/emotion imo

This take is as good as that penalty call

You mean the take of what the Refs called and the results of those calls? You’re arguing a best of the NHL Ref’s judgement, it only looked questionable because Foligno went face first into the boards because he got offcenter after clipping Marchment’s leg after he dodged most of him….I’m arguing it was pointless for Foligno to skate 1/2 way across the ice to try and put Marchment into the players bench when your down a goal with 5 minutes left…we both know the result…

Wild are the much better team Stars only hope is goaltending and penalties even their coach knows it. They’ve gotten it twice now but I don’t think it happens two more times.

I’m not giving up hope. But I feel like I’ve seen this movie. Way too many times.

JoeMX1825 wrote:

You mean the take of what the Refs called and the results of those calls? You’re arguing a best of the NHL Ref’s judgement…I’m arguing it was pointless for Foligno to skate 1/2 way across the ice to try and put Marchment into the players bench when your down a goal with 5 minutes left…we both know the result…

We get it you hate Foligno. You said Reaves should play over him and he should be in the press box for playoffs and traded in the off season. The bias you have watching guys you like vs ones you don’t is honestly hysterical.

How’s that saying go you can’t argue when stupid??

The Wild outplayed them, sometimes the opposing goalie will steal a game, that right there was a stolen game (multiple breakaway stops, tons of other saves, etc) The difference was special teams, they won that battle, we didn’t, 1 goal loss…pretty simple…We can’t continue to have our stars not score though…Kaprizov and Boldy need to punch through…

its a race to 2 wins…

Watch any national broadcast and one of the biggest issues with these playoffs is the horrible officiating. For the most part until now, the Wild have benefitted from it.

It sucks and it IS a problem.

tswoboda wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>JoeMX1825 wrote:</div>
You mean the take of what the Refs called and the results of those calls? You’re arguing a best of the NHL Ref’s judgement…I’m arguing it was pointless for Foligno to skate 1/2 way across the ice to try and put Marchment into the players bench when your down a goal with 5 minutes left…we both know the result…

How’s that saying go you can’t argue when stupid??

We get it you hate Foligno. You said Reaves should play over him and he should be in the press box for playoffs and traded in the off season. The bias you have watching guys you like vs ones you don’t is honestly hysterical.

You’re arguing with reality, i’m not…2 penalties, 2 PP goals… He plays right on the line, tonight he went over the line in a closely called game and it costs us a 3-1 series lead…(Dallas players were called for the same soft penalities) I don’t hate Foligno, I agree he’s been a different (effective) player in the playoffs vs end of the regular season when I said he should be sitting in the press box because he was terrible and we had more effective guys (Sundquist) who should replace him, but he lets his emotions get out of control and it usually leads to turnovers and dumb penalties at bad times of a game…He’s also a terrible actor because he probaby should have got called for embellishment again on the call he drew in the 3rd…

biggill wrote:

Watch any national broadcast and one of the biggest issues with these playoffs is the horrible officiating. For the most part until now, the Wild have benefitted from it.

It sucks and it IS a problem.

it’s a super fast game and Refs are humans making split second decisions…of course the fanbases are going to be arguing any call against their team, you just hope it gets evened out over a game/series…I mean look at how long they looked at the Highsticking Kings OT winner the other night, their was likely 20 pairs of professional official eyes in the War room in Toronto looking at it in super slow motion on huge UHD screens for 5 minutes and they still got the call wrong…

If anyone gets a link to Evasons postgame please post it. I can’t get the postgame so I’m curious what he had to say.

Fiala looks like the player we needed last year.

JoeMX1825 wrote:

He plays right on the line, tonight he went over the line in a closely called game and it costs us a 3-1 series lead…(Dallas players were called for the same soft penalities)

Foligno went over the line tonight? Please keep digging that hole.

There were 2 phantom calls on Dallas tonight. And guess when they were…. immediately after powerplay goals. Blatant makeup calls, refs admitting to everyone they screwed up.

I get that refs are going to miss calls, I’m not even complaining about the refs. I’m complaining about the guy saying a player needs to change their physical game because they got hosed twice in the same game – its laughable. Both calls were simply finishing checks.

biggill wrote:

Fiala looks like the player we needed last year.

Playing the Oilers is a dream match up for him and he’s definitely taking advantage of it so far. What was his injury?

They’ve been live streaming Dean’s pressers on YT. His was pretty bland, sounds like Foligno was more animated and I would think he will get fined for it.

You can keep arguing with the wall, let me know how that turns out…Refs made the call, they were pretty consistent all night calling soft penalties on BOTH teams…

Foligno launched himself into a last second dodging Marchment who ended up just getting clipped and twisted to the ice…why is that type/level of hit neccessary for him to do down 2-1 with 5 minutes left…he could have simply rubbed him out along the boards, but he went for the homerun hit and only clipping the player causing him to spin down to the ice, Refs see that and make the call…

had the Wild capitalized on the 6 or so grade A chances before it, it’s likely not even a factor…but they didn’t, series tied

biggill wrote:

If anyone gets a link to Evasons postgame please post it. I can’t get the postgame so I’m curious what he had to say.

Great shade by DeBoer:

“Special teams were a big part and we’re a good special-team team. We have been all year. I’ve said this before, they take penalties, and when they do, we have to make them pay.”

Deano likely ready to blow a gasket.

Hopefully Deano doesn’t overthink game 5 prep…just go with the same lineup (maybe try Nyquist with Boldy and Jojo?)

JoeMX1825 wrote:

had the Wild capitalized on the 6 or so grade A chances before it, it’s likely not even a factor…but they didn’t, series tied

Completely agree. I’m not blaming the refs for the loss, that’s loser mentality. It’s simply your take that it’s Foligno’s fault for getting jobbed has me utterly dumfounded, that’s the only thing I’m reacting to here. He finished 2 checks and he better not stop doing that or he might as well be in the press box where you want him.

Last thing is your comment about refs missing both ways. The refs missed 4 calls… 2 against Foligno and 2 against the stars that were the most blatant makeup calls you will ever see. You get that, right? Both were called the first opportunity after Stars scoring their PP goals. There should have been 2 total penalties in the game – the other 4 were directly caused by Foligno getting hosed.

If there’s something to gripe on Foligno for it’s him screaming F-YOU at the refs 10 times a game and being so animated towards them. He brings it on himself and that’s what he needs to change, not finishing checks.

And the same intensity by Foligno.

He can’t change what he’s doing or we lose the next 2.

I’m not saying Foligno needs to change his game, i’m saying he needs to be smarter about the situation. Going for a lights out hit carries too much risk with 5 minutes left in a game down 2-1, if he would have just rubbed Marchment out there wouldnt be a penalty. The 1st one I agree was a soft call, but the refs called it because the Stars D never actually touched the puck and got hit…Foligno assumed he did…

Similarly getting into a fight in Chicago while on a powerplay when your losing?/tied? in the 3rd period is just stupid and unnecessary… if you’re trying to fire your team up, do it earlier in the game when the penalty isnt so time sensitive… again thats part of his game, but the timing isnt smart…(of course we know the Wild scored 2 late 3rd period goals to win and of course the media is going to spin it as Foligno sparked the team to victory because its a good story) anybody who knows hockey, knows it was just a selfish boneheaded play…

biggill wrote:

Watch any national broadcast and one of the biggest issues with these playoffs is the horrible officiating. For the most part until now, the Wild have benefitted from it.

It sucks and it IS a problem.

not sure what can be done, the Refs and linesmen in the playoffs are the best of the best available. I believe the lower reviewed crews get eliminated from the available pool after each round too? (at least they used to, not positive thats still the practice?)