2022/2023 NHL/Wild Offseason-Season-Postseason Thread

  • JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 18377
    #2197365

    Remember a few pages back when I questioned why the Wild brought Ek to Dallas when he is still rehabbing and it would be better for him to stay home and do it because you’re not sure how the Home Team will let the visiting team use their facilities and equipment? Well look at what Vegas does:

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    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 18377
    #2197369

    Instead of complaining about the starter decision, we should be scared $hitless by how bad our Penalty Kill has been…

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 23381
    #2197373

    Instead of complaining about the starter decision, we should be scared $hitless by how bad our Penalty Kill has been…

    It was bad to start game 1 then lights out after 2 periods and through OT. Last night, it was not good. Gave up a shorty too.

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8723
    #2197377

    Agree moving on from the goalies, I just had to get my rant out and over with.

    Instead of complaining about the starter decision, we should be scared $hitless by how bad our Penalty Kill has been…

    I cringe every time there’s a penalty called, no matter which team it’s on.

    If Hartman and/or Ek return I think they need to get Reaves out of the lineup just so they can keep as many centers and penalty killers in. Boldy, Zuccy, and Jojo all on the PK last night. Dallas is smart and coached very well, they will not engage with Reaves one bit.

    Spurgeon wasn’t good in game 1 and last night was even worse. Need a lot more from the captain.

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11040
    #2197381

    Instead of complaining about the starter decision, we should be scared $hitless by how bad our Penalty Kill has been…

    Well it’s kind of the biggest story of the loss so…..

    You knew the PK was going to be bad with Ek out (and this game Hartman), and Dallas being one of the top PP teams in the league, oh and also because this team hasn’t won a faceoff all series.

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8723
    #2197383

    this team hasn’t won a faceoff all series.

    That’s not going to change either – Dallas is unreal in the dot. They have like 8 guys that consistently win draws – better than anyone the Wild have. Back in game 1 they had 3 different guys take the opening draw of a PP and run set plays off of it. Pretty incredible the depth they have when it comes to face-offs.

    gim
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17848
    #2197389

    Dallas being one of the top PP teams in the league

    I believe that the Stars had the second-best combined special teams in the entire league this season behind Edmonton. I was trying to confirm that stat, but had some issues filtering it.

    Simply playing most of the game even strength might help here given that Dallas has such a robust stat in special teams. Last year the Blues were exceptional on the power play and I believe it played a crucial role in their series win against Minnesota too. Right now it appears that the series may be on the exact same path. Special teams and goal tending.

    Justin riegel
    Posts: 952
    #2197394

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>mahtofire14 wrote:</div>
    Dallas being one of the top PP teams in the league

    I believe that the Stars had the second-best combined special teams in the entire league this season behind Edmonton. I was trying to confirm that stat, but had some issues filtering it.

    Simply playing most of the game even strength might help here given that Dallas has such a robust stat in special teams. Last year the Blues were exceptional on the power play and I believe it played a crucial role in their series win against Minnesota too. Right now it appears that the series may be on the exact same path. Special teams and goal tending.

    If they cant figure away to stay out of the box and win the next two at home it will be deja vu all over again. I am trying to act like the sky is falling, but it just feels the same as last year. No killer instinct

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 18377
    #2197396

    If we’re this bad after stealing home ice away, I wonder how the Boston Bruins fanbase is doing?

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8723
    #2197399

    If we’re this bad after stealing home ice away, I wonder how the Boston Bruins fanbase is doing?

    Live look at Bruins fans:

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    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11899
    #2197408

    Jamie Benn is a bad MFer, he seemingly wins every faceoff he takes, and when he wants to go do something he just does it and anyone getting in the way just bounces off of him.

    I’ve never been a big Spurgeon guy, and like tswoboda thought he was terrible last night.

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11836
    #2197412

    KK, Zuc and Boldy need to show up and do something.

    There’s your problem, lady.

    I don’t care how well the goaltenders play, if guys like KK, Boldy, and Zuc go MIA, it’s going to be a(nother) Round 1 exit. Zuc isn’t just not scoring, he’s taking life lessons from Dumba on how to make bad passes worse by doing it at the worst possible moment.

    Unfortunately, Dallas has hit on the winning formula. The Wild can’t match the pace and when we try, we end up in the box and giving them more of what they want.

    I have to be honest, I’m not really looking forward to being at the next 2 games at home. It’s no fun when the tension and the “here we go again” aura is hanging in the air. You can just sense Dallas upshifting to playoff gear while the Wild are trying to downshift and hit the brakes at the same time to slow down and try to figure out what’s going wrong.

    Gitchi Gummi
    Posts: 3144
    #2197417

    Questionable Fleury starts in the playoffs by this coaching staff two years in a row have cost us big. IMO, they rely too much on his resume and what he did 10 years ago versus what he is doing now.

    Both last year and this year, the other goalie (Talbot and Gus) was the better goalie at the end of the season and the coaching staff disregarded that and started Fleury and it hasn’t worked out.

    gim
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17848
    #2197418

    I am trying to act like the sky is falling, but it just feels the same as last year.

    Sure does. Everything so far from the late start times, playing a team with formidable special teams, to a bad coaching decision on which goalie to start, it feels exactly that way last year playing the Blues.

    The script isn’t completely written yet though. Plenty of time to adjust here.

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11899
    #2197423

    Jeez is this a Vikings thread?!? They just split on the road, that’s a W. Each game is it’s own, Dallas doesn’t get any carryover goals. From winning the Super Bowl game 1, to worst team ever after game 2 lol. That MN Fan Trauma is real!!! rotflol rotflol

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11899
    #2197426

    They have been suffocating Kirill, and you could tell they had a memo to hammer Faber anytime he was near the puck last night.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11836
    #2197431

    I am a bit surprised by the goalie decision, but not that surprised. They have been eluding to rotating for a month now.
    I think it it real easy to second guess after the fact. Last year they waited to long to go to there second goalie and this year went to early, but again all hindsight.
    Probably not what my decision would have been but I don’t get paid to make those decisions.
    Wild need to get back to what worked for them in game 1 with a suffocating D and neutral zone game. Settle down on any retribution or messing around with the after the whistle stuff.
    Hopefully they get some center help back one way or another.

    The series is even. Which I was kind of expecting. Let’s just see what happens Friday.

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8723
    #2197433

    They have been suffocating Kirill, and you could tell they had a memo to hammer Faber anytime he was near the puck last night.

    DeBoer is an arrogant a-hole and I can’t stand him a great coach. Completely shut Kirill down 2 years ago against Vegas and made obvious adjustments to start the game last night.

    What we’re seeing here is what Grouse trademarked the Typical Minnesota Sports Fan (TMSF). Some really solid examples.

    It is 1-1, they lost a sh!tshow of a game without their top 2 centers and goalie. We now have a 5 game series with home ice advantage.

    AK Guy
    Posts: 1428
    #2197434

    I’ve never been a big Spurgeon guy, and like tswoboda thought he was terrible last night.

    Oxymoron. His size seems to be a factor in the playoffs when everyone turns it up to 11.

    Justin riegel
    Posts: 952
    #2197441

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>BigWerm wrote:</div>
    I’ve never been a big Spurgeon guy, and like tswoboda thought he was terrible last night.

    Oxymoron. His size seems to be a factor in the playoffs when everyone turns it up to 11.

    On a side note note to this I would love to see Kirill get the C next year. I know he is young but he has his teammate’s backs, as he went after Domi going after Dumba in game 1. I dont see spurg as a real leader.

    lindyrig79
    Forest Lake / Lake Mille Lacs
    Posts: 5961
    #2197442

    I think it was a ridiculous decision to start Fluery last night, UNLESS there’s something we don’t know. Which that seems doubtful. As I said 10 pages ago Gus should be the every game starter in the postseason, period.

    As for the other guys MIA and all that I will somewhat reserve judgment. We were on the road after a double OT game and Dallas was desperate.

    They now have the opportunity to come home and handle business, and change the narrative.

    Gitchi Gummi
    Posts: 3144
    #2197445

    I am a bit surprised by the goalie decision, but not that surprised. They have been eluding to rotating for a month now.
    I think it it real easy to second guess after the fact. Last year they waited to long to go to there second goalie and this year went to early, but again all hindsight.

    I was hopeful the goalie rotation the last month or two was just to keep whoever the hot hand was at the end of the year fresh for the playoff run. As a former goalie myself, I don’t think most people understand how much it throws your game off to sit when you’re hot. Goaltending is one of the streakiest positions in all sports. When one guy is hot, ride him until he shows you otherwise. Especially since Gus is so much younger than Flower, he should definitely have the endurance to play every other night. I’d equate rotating goalies in the playoffs to rotating QBs on every other drive. Doesn’t make sense and neither guy is going to be able to get into a rhythm.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11836
    #2197446

    On a side note note to this I would love to see Kirill get the C next year. I know he is young but he has his teammate’s backs, as he went after Domi going after Dumba in game 1. I dont see spurg as a real leader.

    Ridiculous take on Spurg.

    Justin riegel
    Posts: 952
    #2197456

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    Ridiculous take on Spurg.

    I agree.

    After the Billy G video from last year where he just wants to “work hard and have fun” I would have taken the C then. Is from the old regime and leaders lead by example.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 23381
    #2197459

    After the Billy G video from last year where he just wants to “work hard and have fun” I would have taken the C then. Is from the old regime and leaders lead by example.

    Did you see the one from this year? Completely different Spurge.

    Justin riegel
    Posts: 952
    #2197463

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Justin riegel wrote:</div>
    After the Billy G video from last year where he just wants to “work hard and have fun” I would have taken the C then. Is from the old regime and leaders lead by example.

    Did you see the one from this year? Completely different Spurge.

    I have not, but having your captain getting worked on the ice is not something I would want.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11836
    #2197466

    So you watched 1 game this year then?

    Again ridiculous take.

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11040
    #2197467

    Spurgeon is not the problem here. He had a bad game. Game one he was terrific and still got blasted a few times.

    Another aspect that gets over looked time and time again with this team is when they aren’t physical they don’t win. They were smashed on the boards last night and had no fight back. When this team hits everything in sight, they win. It’s been this way for 10 years with this club.

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