Somebody needs to take out Manson. He’s been going after our guys from the drop of the puck. This team hasn’t hit anyone in weeks.
This exactly! It takes 2 to tango, but I haven’t seen him challenged except maybe by Duhaime…
To those who will reply asking isnt that Reaves job? Yes, Reaves should have engaged/challenged him earlier in the game, Wild losing their self respect….
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NHL refs are a freaking joke. Dewar gets double teamed by two Avs and Shaw gets the only penalty for coming in to help out Dewar…..Unbelievable.Did Shaw pull an Avs player’s helmet off? It looked like that was happening but the camera cut away…. That’s an automatic penalty if that’s what happened….
Pulling the helmet off is only a penalty if it happens during play. During scrums it is not a penalty.
What would a peewee defender be taught do in this situation? This is what drives me crazy about the team this year, the mental mistakes are youth hockey level….
How about GMBG’s interview during the 1st period last night, an audible groan when Ek is in the slot and does a drop pass to an Avs player and then a soft goal let in by Flower…Announcers could tell GMBG was pissed off and quickly the interview was over and they wished him well…lol
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I thought all those same things Joe. You could hear in his voice during the interview the frustration. Pretty sure I heard the fat lady singing last night too.
If Billy doesnt do something quick this season will be over. March 3rd is too late. Id rather try something to get the team going more consistently than wait and see what this current roster does.
The team overall played a good game, but cannot finish at 5 on 5 and Fleury had a poor performance which is how many in a row now?
If Billy doesnt do something quick this season will be over. March 3rd is too late. Id rather try something to get the team going more consistently than wait and see what this current roster does.
The team overall played a good game, but cannot finish at 5 on 5 and Fleury had a poor performance which is how many in a row now?
it needs to be a “hockey trade” that benefits them next year otherwise its just a waste of assets given up for a trade just for trade purposes. Calling up Iowa guys is sort of the same thing…
I heard a decent trade idea the other day:
Greenway and a mid-level draft pick or prospect for Boeser with 25% salary retained (perhaps a better prospect/draft pick could result in more salary retained?) by Vancouver (taking his salary down to $5 million aav, that results in a $2 milion cap deficit for the trade…This would then result in Addison getting traded before next season starts…I beleive that would leave about $7 million to sign Gustavsson, Gaudreau, Duhaime and Shaw (in that order of importance). IF Flower retires (which I think is a good possibility) that might free up another million bucks depending on what Gus signs for and a cheap backup for him…
Why Boeser? I think he has alot of good hockey left in him, I think playing at home will help his mental health which has been effecting his game the past few years, He brings the much needed RH Shot to utilize, I think playing with somebody like Boldy (and likely Rossi next year) is a great fit for all players. It will also answer the question about what Boldy can do when given a skilled shooting winger to play with.
After Boeser’s 2 years are up, the Wild are out of cap hell and know alot more about what Boldy can do and the type of player best to pair him with…if Boesser turns out to be a great fit, he’d likely be interested in signing a team friendly extension, if not, you unload him at the deadline before he becomes a UFA…
We just cant stay with the status quo underutilizing Boldy the next 2 seasons…We absolutely NEED to add some scoring offense to the 2nd line, this will trickle down to the 1st & 3rd lines…
If not Boeser (with some salary retained) who’s a better option with 2 or less years left of a locked in contract?
I would hope for more than 25% retention in salary but I dont hate that idea. Addison while he has the offensive upside I just dont see him sticking long term if he cannot get his D zone figured out with how this team plays. It will be interesting to see the roster in 2 years because its going to be like 25% of what the team was when BG inherited it.
It only took me 24 sims before the Wild hit the lottery luck, sadly per the NHL draft lottery rules you can only move UP 10 spots, so the #11 worst overall slot is key… kinda fun to dream though…
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I would hope for more than 25% retention in salary
More is going to require a much better draft pick/prospect. I’d give up our 2nd round pick this draft if it meant Vancouver retains 50%, then we’re almost replacing Greenway with Boeser straight up…I just don’t see that happening, but who knows…From a size standpoint, I don’t think Vancouver would be interested in Addison with Hughes already locked in for 5 more years…
Greenway and a mid-level draft pick or prospect for Boeser with 25% salary retained (perhaps a better prospect/draft pick could result in more salary retained?) by Vancouver (taking his salary down to $5 million aav, that results in a $2 milion cap deficit for the trade…This would then result in Addison getting traded before next season starts…I beleive that would leave about $7 million to sign Gustavsson, Gaudreau, Duhaime and Shaw (in that order of importance). IF Flower retires (which I think is a good possibility) that might free up another million bucks depending on what Gus signs for and a cheap backup for him…
This leaves $9m to sign Gus, Freddy, Duhaime, Shaw, Flower’s replacement, Addison’s replacement, and Steel’s Replacement….
If you want Boeser they need at least 50% retainage just to fill out the roster. The other scorer off the scrap heap to keep an eye on is Vrana. He was recalled by the wings, but I think there’s some serious character concerns there.
Holy hell this is a tough quote to digest. I know he can’t actually believe this and is going to protect his goalie in a post game presser, but dam. He brought up Flower being fantastic after the last game too, the game where Gus stole a point
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The wild are falling fast. they have lost 4 of the last 5 and 7 of the last 10. They better get it turned around soon or their season may be over soon.
This leaves $9m to sign Gus, Freddy, Duhaime, Shaw, Flower’s replacement, Addison’s replacement, and Steel’s Replacement….
yeah, there’s no easy dicisions here…especially for 2023/2024 season’s cap (I was always bullish on 2024/2025 season’s cap going up $4-5 million to help counter signing anybody over a year, but with yesterday’s Ballys Parent Company forfiet on loan payments, who knows now)
Moving Foligno for picks/prospects can free up the needed space (He’s too often hurt and too expensive for a 8-10 goal producing 3rd line forechecking role, I think we can agree last year’s 23 goal burst was a fluke and he’s only getting older) Duhaime can replace Greenway or Foligno, if we don’t have an Iowa guy ready, we can find cheap alternatives via FA for the other…
again, my thinking is to find a way to improve the 2nd line offense the next 2 years…if we don’t balance the scoring out, it will be more of the same goal struggles the next 2 years…I’ve liked Ek’s 2nd line Center play the past few games, perhaps that will stick until/if Rossi is ready in the future…
I forgot to mention this a few days ago, but in the last Russo podcast with GMBG I found it interesting when Russo asked him a question around the lack of goal production by Hartman/Foligno/Greenway this season and GMBG answered that it’s unfair to expect the same production after they all had career years….
UMMMM, isn’t that EXACTLY what GMBG said during the entire preseason when asked why no bigger offseason moves were made with the unexpected capspace they had? He said he fully expects them all to maintain that production this season (I specifically remember him stressing that point at the State Fair interview he did and perhaps at the opening season presser?)
Just cought my attention because usually GMBG doesn’t contradict himself and stands by his words…
Russo on KFAN pushing the “Be a Trade Deadline Cash Broker” idea for the Wild….hmmm I wonder where I heard that mentioned before…
Wild will have $16 million in capspace to sell off….and remember that $16 million is just a few million in actual dollars because its all pro-rated, so it will take GMBG convincing Leopold to basically buy some draft picks/prospects for a few million bucks…
I heard that Evason quote live last night and almost drove off the road. I know he’s protecting him but good lord, they need to ride Gus for now.
I don’t know if they should make any moves before the deadline. Unless they can get a solid center with some term there’s no reason to make a move because it will only hurt the team next year. Boesser is awful expensive to be a reclamation project.
I know he’s protecting him but good lord, they need to ride Gus for now.
The stats do not lie. Gus is 2nd in the league in GAA and tied for 2nd in save percentage. I feel like BG has too much loyalty to Fleury because he’s “the man” in net and is dictating that Dean plays him more often. The heck with that. Its time to strike while the iron is hot here. And that iron is Gustafson.
I almost feel like its the exact same situation that occurred at the end of last season when they were hell bent on riding Fleury until they reached the edge of the cliff, even though Talbot’s numbers were clearly better.
Did Russo give an idea how many coveted 4th and 5th round picks they can stockpile by playing broker 
I’m a little concerned about Russo right now but then I remember he secretly is loving this so much… he’s out there with his gas can and backpack blower just feeding that fire. This is where he thrives.
I think it’s interesting the Wild, in the middle of the dryest dry spell I can remember since Paul Fenton, have 2 less goals than Colorado (1 less GP) on the season.
I read something earlier today on twitter verse from one of the heavy analytic guys and he said 5×5 scoring is down league wide this year. I thought that was interesting.
Did Russo give an idea how many coveted 4th and 5th round picks they can stockpile by playing broker
You keep ripping the idea like there’s a better use of the capspace, they are basically free draft picks for using a few million of Leopold’s money…Of course this is a last resort idea if the team is deemed out of the playoffs, so i’m guessing your thinking is overpay for a rental and HOPE they play well enough to close the gap the last 20 games and make the playoffs no matter the deficit? That’s ultimately GMBG’s realistic decision of does his team have what it takes to win or is it better to think long term right now?
$16 million can get you alot more than a 4th or 5th round pick…If the Wild takes $2.5 million of Kane’s caphit so he could still fit on the Rangers or $2.5 of Karlson’s caphit so the Oilers could fit him in for the Playoffs, that could snag some draft picks…this year most if not all contending teams have zero capspace, so who knows how desparate they’ll get?
* Fixed the $ amounts in the examples I used, Wild could only retian 50% of the already reduced 50% salary…
I think it’s interesting the Wild, in the middle of the dryest dry spell I can remember since Paul Fenton, have 2 less goals than Colorado (1 less GP) on the season.
that’s what happends when your stars miss considerable time and are replaced with average AHL callups…How much worse would the Wild be if Kaprizov missed 10-15 games?
I read something earlier today on twitter verse from one of the heavy analytic guys and he said 5×5 scoring is down league wide this year. I thought that was interesting.
I’d be curious to see that stat over the past 3-5 years…with so much more emphasis on defensive systems and shot blocking nowadays, It’s pretty simple, 5 bodies in the defensive zone with the mindset to do whatever to block the shot = less space to hit the net vs Powerplays…
You keep ripping the idea like there’s a better use of the capspace, they are basically free draft picks for using a few million of Leopold’s money…
It’s just nothingburger – it does nothing to move the needle now or in the future. It’s pointless fodder to fill up radio airwaves and blog bandwidth. Just wait til the big article is released about it before the deadline How Dynasties are Built – a Story on Buying Picks . No it doesn’t hurt anything but also… YAY!!! a 4th round pick. I can see why you’re so excited about it if you’ve talked yourself into getting a 2nd round pick. Find a deadline trade where the broker team got better than a 4th round pick for eating an expiring deal.
Yes please overpay for JVR, that’s exactly what I want 
that’s what happends when your stars miss considerable time and are replaced with average AHL callups…How much worse would the Wild be if Kaprizov missed 10-15 games?
Apples to oranges. Colorado loses their stars for a lot of games every single season and still contend for the Presidents trophy. Makar, Mackinnon, Rantanen, and Landeskog haven’t played a full season in 5+ years. Wild have been one of the healthiest teams for a long time. KK missed 1 career game for injury.
free swings to try and hit a home run…or pooling picks together to move up and grab somebody your scouts highly value who sliding… why wouldn’t that be something you would want to take advantage of if you could…our best player in franchise history was an afterthought 5th rounder we didn’t even talk to for 3 years…
I can’t remember a year with more teams capped out, maybe this year the prices will be higher for teams thinking this is their year to take a shot… and yes, I know we’re not the only team with an abundant amount of capspace to sell…
I fixed my $ retention number examples, so unless GMBG got really creative and traded for the player first and then traded them again the Wild could only retain 50% of the already likely reduced 50% salary of the player who was traded…so yes, this changes the value of the draft pick return, 2nd or 3rd highly unlikely..
maybe this year the prices will be higher for teams thinking this is their year to take a shot
The eternal optimist. I respect it.
I never said they shouldn’t do it. Just that getting those picks gets me about as excited as sending 2-way contract guys to Iowa on off-days. It’s good business but I’m not giving my Billy G bobblehead an extra salute for it.
Russo also discussed the prospect pool and although they are ranked 1 he doesn’t look at anyone outside of Wallstedt as being a star. So how many middle 6 and middle pairing players can they keep in the system.
It’s good business but I’m not giving my Billy G bobblehead an extra salute for it.
Nor would I…
Russo also discussed the prospect pool and although they are ranked 1 he doesn’t look at anyone outside of Wallstedt as being a star. So how many middle 6 and middle pairing players can they keep in the system.
I’m glad our only projected star is the goalie position at least…
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