2022/2023 NHL/Wild Offseason-Season-Postseason Thread

  • CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22841
    #2134878

    It was fun to speculate while it lasted… That’s alot of term for an aging Geno with a full No move clause for all of it.

    Im surprised they did that. His best days are behind him, but it would have been weird to see him in another sweater.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22841
    #2134892

    With the new found extra cap space, does BG go after a top 6 guy to fit alongside Freddy Hockey and Boldy? If one could be had that would round out the lineup nicely.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17898
    #2134896

    With the new found extra cap space, does BG go after a top 6 guy to fit alongside Freddy Hockey and Boldy? If one could be had that would round out the lineup nicely.

    I think they could be looking for somebody to REPLACE Freddy Hockey….if not, then where does Rossi play? Gaudreau should be the 4th line center, I know Deano has a loveaffair with him, but he’s not stupid and he’s not going to pigeonhole Rossi in a 4th line spot where he’s totally ineffective and it kills his confidence…

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22841
    #2134898

    I wouldnt like Gaudreau in a 4th line role I dont think, I could be possibly convinced however. Put Rossi in the middle and shift him off to wing. We do have a few guys that will be out for the start of the season too due to injuries.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17898
    #2134909

    I wouldnt like Gaudreau in a 4th line role I dont think, I could be possibly convinced however. Put Rossi in the middle and shift him off to wing. We do have a few guys that will be out for the start of the season too due to injuries.

    If no other moves are made, I would like to see the following line combo’s to start the season:

    Kaprizov – Hartman – Zuccarello
    Boldy – Rossi – Jost
    Greenway – Ek – Foligno
    Dewar – Gaudreau – Duhaime

    Yes, there’s been some buzz that maybe Greenway isn’t ready by the start of the season, then maybe Beckman or Duhaime would plug into that line and somebody else plugs into the 4th line… I think GMBG wants to see what Jost can produce when given an extended top 6 opportunity, this will help guide his decision on either extending or trading him this year…

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22841
    #2134911

    Jost certainly has the skills to play in the top 6 whether or not he can perform will remain to be seen. I like his game and I think he is a better fit than Sturm was. I was watching replays of the Cup Finals games the other day and man, Sturm was glaringly bad on several goals. Really no effort on some defending plays.

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11038
    #2134936

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>mahtofire14 wrote:</div>
    I hope you’re right. I just wasn’t too impressed with him last year. And he’s like 39 years old. He’s not the Vezina winner anymore. I just hope he looks better than he did last year.

    He’s only a year older than Cam. He also played the majority of his games last year with a trash Blackhawks team. He isnt washed up by any means. Apparently this goalie we got back in the deal is decent he was just on a terrible team as well.
    Seems the Sens may be making a huge push in FA to get the likes of Giroux and possibly others. Could be a rumor mill game to garner a bidding war, but if they go all in on some of these guys they could be a decent team.

    Actually he’s 3 years younger. Sure Fleury isn’t washed up, but he’s no Vezina winner anymore. He looked Dubnyk slow when he was with us last season (ok that’s maybe a stretch). He’ll be fine, I just don’t understand all the gushing everybody is doing over him.

    CaptainMusky
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    #2134938

    He’ll be fine, I just don’t understand all the gushing everybody is doing over him.

    He is a better goalie than Cam. He will look better this year with more time working with the D Corps. Remember these guys really had no practice time down the stretch (especially once he was traded here) due to condensed schedule. There is a huge difference in play styles between Cam and MAF. The D and goalie have to be on the same page regarding rebound control, playing the puck, etc. I liked Cam, he was a decent goalie but he really didnt start playing well until MAF got here. He was consistently inconsistent.

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17474
    #2134940

    He’ll be fine, I just don’t understand all the gushing everybody is doing over him.

    I agree. People think he’s still the goalie that won a Stanley Cup. He’s clearly not.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17898
    #2134943

    I just don’t understand all the gushing everybody is doing over him.

    I don’t think anybody is gushing about him, but after carrying Vegas for 4 years and winning the Vezina he was shipped off to an absolutley terrible Chicago team last year by a cap strapped Golden Knights team that has ZERO care for its players before getting traded to the Wild and going 9-2 in the regular season and then 2-3 in the playoffs and the majority of goals scored on him in the playoffs were powerplay goals no goalie would have a chance on…lets not forget the Wild had it’s own defensive problems all last year that resulted in alot of high scoring wins, but ultimately terrible stats for our goalies…

    I’m not going to write him off just because he’s 1-2 years older now…the guy looks like he’s 25 years old, he’s still quick as ever and MOST importantly he’s the PERFECT role model/mentor for the best goalie prospect in the world we hope takes over in 2 years…

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11607
    #2134947

    Definitely not gushing but putting the situation in context. They got at the very least an equal goalie to Cam. Most likely better. For less money. Again would you have wanted to extend Cam for 2-3 years a 5 mill cap hit. I would have not. I don’t get the love affair with Cam except that he is a nice guy. Played well down the stretch but has been an avg goalie his entire career.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11607
    #2134949

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>mahtofire14 wrote:</div>
    He’ll be fine, I just don’t understand all the gushing everybody is doing over him.

    I agree. People think he’s still the goalie that won a Stanley Cup. He’s clearly not.

    And people think Cam was the goalie to win the Cup. He is not.

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17474
    #2134951

    And people think Cam was the goalie to win the Cup. He is not.

    I agree. Neither is Fleury at this point.

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8540
    #2134952

    Going with Flower as a starter is a gamble. But going with Cam as a starter would be a gamble as well – remember he needed to be replaced half way through last season. It’s really too bad that tandem isn’t going to happen – I don’t like this trade but understand it needed to happen. When you have a goalie request a trade you need to move them. Just feels like they could have got more for Cam in this hot goalie market right now – but then have to deal with finding a backup in that same market so maybe not.

    Overall if you look at how the team changed from the deadline last year until now I think it’s a net positive.

    Talbot —> Flower
    Kaapo —-> New Swedish backup who’s name I don’t know
    2nd & 5th round picks —> Sheriff Middelton

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22841
    #2134953

    And people think Cam was the goalie to win the Cup. He is not.

    People look at his 13-0-3 going down the stretch but conveniently forget how inconsistent he was before that. He had a terrible stretch in there. So which goalie is he? He has never been the 13-0-3 guy for long stretches. He is essentially middle of the road. Having he and MAF would have been great because either of them could start a lot of games, but that is water under the bridge now.
    FA frenzy is starting. NJ clearing cap, signs are pointing toward a Johnny Hockey signing. That would be huge. 90 of his 112 pts came at even strength! That is unreal. That is going to be nearly impossible to replace in Calgary.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11607
    #2134955

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Ripjiggen wrote:</div>
    And people think Cam was the goalie to win the Cup. He is not.

    I agree. Neither is Fleury at this point.

    Ok so then they saved money then to be spent elsewhere. So still net positive.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11607
    #2134957

    Going with Flower as a starter is a gamble. But going with Cam as a starter would be a gamble as well – remember he needed to be replaced half way through last season. It’s really too bad that tandem isn’t going to happen – I don’t like this trade but understand it needed to happen. When you have a goalie request a trade you need to move them. Just feels like they could have got more for Cam in this hot goalie market right now – but then have to deal with finding a backup in that same market so maybe not.

    Overall if you look at how the team changed from the deadline last year until now I think it’s a net positive.

    Talbot —> Flower
    Kaapo —-> New Swedish backup who’s name I don’t know
    2nd & 5th round picks —> Sheriff Middelton

    I too though they could have got more with how desperate some teams are.

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17474
    #2134958

    Ok so then they saved money then to be spent elsewhere. So still a win.

    Its a business. Sometimes business decisions have to be me made. Not a whole lot of goalies out there to be had. Keumper is probably the best free agent available and the Wild already burned that bridge. They’re probably just biding their time until Wallstedt is ready to be the man (if, of course).

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11607
    #2134959

    And was going to cost north of 3.5.

    CaptainMusky
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    #2134961

    The Wild would have had no room for Kuemper. He will likely sign for multiple years at $5.5M or more possibly. No way the Wild would even consider that with Wallstedt in a couple years.

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8540
    #2134966

    Yeah the floor for Kuemper is 5 years x $5m, but my guess is more like 6×6 – Wild are in no position to do that. Especially for a 31 year old injury prone goalie. Not sure how the Wild burned the bridge with Kuemper by letting him walk to UFA 5 years ago. Just because the fans hate him doesn’t mean the organization mistreated him in any way.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17898
    #2134971

    The team obviously feels Wallstedt will be ready in 2-3 years, how many “starting” goalies would want to sign for that short of term? none…Even if we NEVER traded for Flower last season, the Wild was never going to resign Cam with Wallstedt in the picture

    My guess is Ottawa told Billy we’ll either give you a mid round pick or we’ll take on Cam’s full salary, you decide… he likes the $ flexibility…

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22841
    #2134988

    Giroux to Ottawa. They are spending some money for a change.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11607
    #2134990

    Cam got his way. Gets to be the clear cut starter. Won’t have to worry who is starting in playoffs because Ottawa isn’t making them. Become a FA and see what his worth is again a year older.
    Wild got an equivalent goalie (at the least) for less. Everyone gets a net positive.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22841
    #2134991

    Cam got his way. Gets to be the clear cut starter. Won’t have to worry who is starting in playoffs because Ottawa isn’t making them. Become a FA and see what his worth is again a year older.
    Wild got an equivalent goalie (at the least) for less. Everyone gets a net positive.

    This

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17898
    #2134993

    wow, Robert Thomas 8 x $8.125 extension with the Blues….he’s good, but is he $8.125 aav good? What will Kyrou sign for then?

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11607
    #2134995

    Yes he is that good. Do the move Taresenko?

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17898
    #2134998

    uggg, somebody needs to cut the mic of Rick DiPietro on the ESPN+ FA coverage…

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11607
    #2135005

    Wild fans upset that Fiala left. Calgary fans have to be losing their minds having Johnny leave for nothing in return.

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