That’s basically 2 trades… Dumba for Reinhart. And Parise + 2 firsts and a prospect for cap space.
Why wouldn’t Buffalo do it? Probably because they have no interest in Dumba, unless maybe they could trade him for more futures.
But they would get a big haul of futures in that trade and only lose a player that they know won’t sign with them. Not sure how much value Reinhardt really has on the trade market??
Edit: there I go jumping in the stupid trade speculation game.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>JoeMX1825 wrote:</div>
Get hot at the right time with a hot goalie with a defensive focused gameplan sprinkled in with some gritty vets and young offensive talent and you have a winning formula..And with what I would say not a true 1C.
Should be a good game 7 tonight.
Nick Suzuki will be a good 1C for a long time in this league. Danault doesn’t have the offensive flair, but he’s a solid 2C/3C. Staal is serviceable as a 4C and I can’t remember who their 3C is? (Kochniemi?)
I’d gladly swap their centers for the Wild’s..
Don’t disagree that Suzuki will be a good center for some time. I just meant that they are more of a center depth squad vs a top heavy star center squad like Tampa. Suzuki is only in his second season. His first season was solid but I wouldn’t say it was star center material.
I mean you could almost put wild names into your statement.😂
Rossi will be a good 1C for a long time in this league. Ek doesn’t have the offensive flair, but he’s a solid 2C/3C. Sturm is serviceable as a 4C and I can’t remember who their 3C is? (Hartman)?
Hartman played center for much of the year yes. It would be nice to upgrade that center and move him back to wing but I have no issue with him at center provided we can get an upgrade in top 6.
I want to see some things start to happen!
Sorry Pug! #gohabsgo!
Your national anthem lady did a wonderful job though!
Game 1 pretty much as expected, similar to game 1 of the Habs/Knights series.
Kuch taking dives like a soccer player tonight. Not sure if he’s trying to draw penalties or really sell his 2021-22 regular season LTIR status.
But for real, his diving is embarrassing.
I’m here for the GOHABSGO bandwagon 
It is embarrassing and that’s why the Ref’s aren’t calling it…The slash he took late in the 3rd was a perfect example, the Ref was a few feet away and watched the whole thing, if Kuch reacted normally it likely would have been called, but he pretended like he was shot in the leg and then complained to the ref when no call was made, it appeared the Ref said something back to him, most likely “quit acting for a call….”
IF the refs could find their whistles during these playoffs, the Slash/Diving combo call should have been made and both players sent to the box…
Oilers Nugent-Hopkins just re-signed for 8 years x $41 million, so just a shade over $5 million per… This should help set the market a bit for Ek and perhaps put a seed in Kaprizov’s agents head to maybe consider the longterm deal in these uncertain times…
in terms of NHL contract negotiations, does anybody have any insight into how they truly work? (maybe you’ve read articles or watched a tv segment/documentary on them?)
* Are the GM’s allowed to talk directly to the player? or do the agents tell their clients to not take any organization calls?
* Do other teammates either freely or maybe asked by the GM to talk to the player about taking a team friendly deal? Are their official rules around this or mostly just an ethics call by the teammate to stay out of it?
* How much push back on the client to not accept an offer does the agent do? Ultimately it’s the players decision, but i’d be curious if there’s any contractual client/agent agreement before negotiations start not allowing the agent to be fired and then some other agent gets the deal done?
* Does the NHLPA get involved at all if the player says “F#@$ it” and wants to accept a very undermarket offer to stay in in the city he’s been in and not uproot his family?
just curious….
From listening to Russo and Lapantas podcast they have made it sound on numerous occasions that BG has only been working with KK’s agent and at some point KK will have to step in and get the deal done so he won’t have to go back to the motherland.
Don’t know for a fact but I would guess that would be fairly standard procedure.
I have no idea how contract negotiations go down, except for that every situation is be different based on what the player wants to do. I think it all starts there and the player has the option to be as involved or un-involved as they want. I mean, Ovi didn’t even have an agent when he signed the biggest contract in NHL history and he had his parents at negotiations with him. Nik Backstrom negotiated his most recent contract without an agent as well. There’s plenty more examples of that, but I’m pretty sure the majority of players let their agent handle 99% of it. They have a conversation with their agent to go over potential options and basically communicate what to expect and what the player’s priorities are. And most players let the agent take it from there and have very little involvement.
I hear ya, I’m mostly interested to get info on these points (with scenarios) :
* Are the GM’s allowed to talk directly to the player? or do the agents tell their clients to not take any organization calls? Could a GM call a player directly and speak to him with no BS specifics like “This is more money then you’ll ever be able to spend in your/your kids lifetime” vs the agent whispering sweet nothings in his client’s ears (with the ultimate goal of getting the biggest commission check he can out of it)
* Do other teammates either freely or maybe asked by the GM to talk to the player about taking a team friendly deal? Are their official rules around this or mostly just an ethics call by the teammate to stay out of it? Do teammates ever call the player and put slight pressure on him to take a team friendly deal to keep the core together to win a cup?
* Does the NHLPA get involved at all if the player says “F#@$ it” and wants to accept a very undermarket offer to stay in in the city he’s been in and not uproot his family? What if Sydney Crosby wants to sign a 4 year extension with the Penguins at $1 million per, does the NHLPA step in and tell him he can’t do that because it will effect the contracts of future player deals?
I hear ya, I’m mostly interested to get info on these points (with scenarios) :
* Are the GM’s allowed to talk directly to the player? or do the agents tell their clients to not take any organization calls? Could a GM call a player directly and speak to him with no BS specifics like “This is more money then you’ll ever be able to spend in your/your kids lifetime” vs the agent whispering sweet nothings in his client’s ears (with the ultimate goal of getting the biggest commission check he can out of it)
* Do other teammates either freely or maybe asked by the GM to talk to the player about taking a team friendly deal? Are their official rules around this or mostly just an ethics call by the teammate to stay out of it? Do teammates ever call the player and put slight pressure on him to take a team friendly deal to keep the core together to win a cup?
* Does the NHLPA get involved at all if the player says “F#@$ it” and wants to accept a very undermarket offer to stay in in the city he’s been in and not uproot his family? What if Sydney Crosby wants to sign a 4 year extension with the Penguins at $1 million per, does the NHLPA step in and tell him he can’t do that because it will effect the contracts of future player deals?
Best bet is to post these questions to a Russo mailbag. Remember you’re posting on a fishing forum, so pretty sure no one here can definitively answer your questions. I have my ideas, but obviously can’t confirm them.
1-Nothing legally says a GM can’t contact (under contract) a player during negotiations. However, the agent probably makes it clear that player wants any communication to through the agent. So if the GM contacts the player directly with a tough love message, well they run a big risk of turning things sour between the player and the team. Becomes more of a trust/communication issue that could snowball into a big problem.
2-Teammates talk, lots of them are friends off the ice. I think you’d have more players telling each other to get all the money/term they can, rather than telling each other to take discounts for the organization. But overall it sure seems like they stay out of each others contract talks. The only thing you really see is when they congratulate each other on social media after a deal is signed.
3-Only example I can think of is there were rumors that the NHLPA was very unhappy when Kevin Labanc signed his 1x$1m deal a couple summer ago, when he could have easily got 3x the money and term. They didn’t say anything publicly but the talk was that they definitely did not approve of the contract and the precedent it set.
regarding the refs in the playoffs, here’s a great Spittin Chicklets interview with former UBER Ref Kerry Frasier, great insight into a ref’s mind – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sw4Ab51v50
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>JoeMX1825 wrote:</div>
I hear ya, I’m mostly interested to get info on these points (with scenarios) :* Are the GM’s allowed to talk directly to the player? or do the agents tell their clients to not take any organization calls? Could a GM call a player directly and speak to him with no BS specifics like “This is more money then you’ll ever be able to spend in your/your kids lifetime” vs the agent whispering sweet nothings in his client’s ears (with the ultimate goal of getting the biggest commission check he can out of it)
* Do other teammates either freely or maybe asked by the GM to talk to the player about taking a team friendly deal? Are their official rules around this or mostly just an ethics call by the teammate to stay out of it? Do teammates ever call the player and put slight pressure on him to take a team friendly deal to keep the core together to win a cup?
* Does the NHLPA get involved at all if the player says “F#@$ it” and wants to accept a very undermarket offer to stay in in the city he’s been in and not uproot his family? What if Sydney Crosby wants to sign a 4 year extension with the Penguins at $1 million per, does the NHLPA step in and tell him he can’t do that because it will effect the contracts of future player deals?
Best bet is to post these questions to a Russo mailbag. Remember you’re posting on a fishing forum, so pretty sure no one here can definitively answer your questions. I have my ideas, but obviously can’t confirm them.
1-Nothing legally says a GM can’t contact (under contract) a player during negotiations. However, the agent probably makes it clear that player wants any communication to through the agent. So if the GM contacts the player directly with a tough love message, well they run a big risk of turning things sour between the player and the team. Becomes more of a trust/communication issue that could snowball into a big problem.
2-Teammates talk, lots of them are friends off the ice. I think you’d have more players telling each other to get all the money/term they can, rather than telling each other to take discounts for the organization. But overall it sure seems like they stay out of each others contract talks. The only thing you really see is when they congratulate each other on social media after a deal is signed.
3-Only example I can think of is there were rumors that the NHLPA was very unhappy when Kevin Labanc signed his 1x$1m deal a couple summer ago, when he could have easily got 3x the money and term. They didn’t say anything publicly but the talk was that they definitely did not approve of the contract and the precedent it set.
oh I know, just looking for other takes, maybe somebody heard a podcast or something in the past about it…
ESPN is putting together a pretty serious NHL team!
Not sure if you’ve ever seen Chelios on TV, but he’s very much like Charles Barkley on Inside the NBA show….
Mark Messier is a great mind to get insight into players, Ray Ferraro is a great analyst!
Levy and McDonough are great play-by-play guys..
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oh I know, just looking for other takes, maybe somebody heard a podcast or something in the past about it…
Well now you know my hot takes on the issue lol.
ESPN is putting together a pretty serious NHL team!
Not sure if you’ve ever seen Chelios on TV, but he’s very much like Charles Barkley on Inside the NBA show….
Mark Messier is a great mind to get insight into players, Ray Ferraro is a great analyst!
Levy and McDonough are great play-by-play guys..
I hope it gets better than the cringeworthy clip of PK Subban and Stephen A. going off about Cole “Collie”field and describing him based off what current basketball player he would be. Does Subban really not know how to pronounce his name or was it just a bit?
I love how Bucci promotes hockey but he is not a good play by play announcer. I feel like he gets a little too animated to the point it seems like he is faking it in his enthusiasm. I think McDonough is the best play by play guy left on ESPN’s roster for all sports if you will.
I love how Bucci promotes hockey but he is not a good play by play announcer. I feel like he gets a little too animated to the point it seems like he is faking it in his enthusiasm. I think McDonough is the best play by play guy left on ESPN’s roster for all sports if you will.
Bucci gets locked in on a particular player and then proceeds to hammer that nail until there’s nothing left…I remember back many years ago he did the NCAA Championship and went on and on about Shayne Gostibere…he would even mention when he went on/off the ice…
Chelios spray tan will be in full force.
ESPN is putting together a pretty serious NHL team!
Not sure if you’ve ever seen Chelios on TV, but he’s very much like Charles Barkley on Inside the NBA show….
Mark Messier is a great mind to get insight into players, Ray Ferraro is a great analyst!
Levy and McDonough are great play-by-play guys..
We want to trade Engblom for Melrose. Melrose is the best.
It’s be nice had they brought Clement and Thorne back.
So Kaprizov gets 99/100 1st place votes for the Calder, the 1 vote for Jason Robinson was either the Dallas beat writer or some journalist just looking to get his name talked about…
Now to get him signed….
Kaprizov also got 2 Hart (MVP) votes, one 4th and one 5th. That’s the first Hart votes for a Wild player since Staal in 17-18.
****Minor note that Wild fans and media are incapable of comprehending: That season Eric Staal was a center… who played on the first line… who scored 42 goals… who got an MVP vote. But apparently he was not a “legit #1C” because the Wild have NeVeR hAd A lEgIt #1 CeNtEr
Something we can all appreciate here (from The Athletic):
“Kaprizov, who scored an overtime winner and three points in his NHL debut in January, was unavailable for comment Tuesday night because he’s on a fishing trip in Siberia without internet or phone access”
Kaprizov also got 2 Hart (MVP) votes, one 4th and one 5th. That’s the first Hart votes for a Wild player since Staal in 17-18.
****Minor note that Wild fans and media are incapable of comprehending: That season Eric Staal was a center… who played on the first line… who scored 42 goals… who got an MVP vote. But apparently he was not a “legit #1C” because the Wild have NeVeR hAd A lEgIt #1 CeNtEr
You should have warned him before he fell off the never ending cliff the following season…
Something we can all appreciate here (from The Athletic):
“Kaprizov, who scored an overtime winner and three points in his NHL debut in January, was unavailable for comment Tuesday night because he’s on a fishing trip in Siberia without internet or phone access”
Kevin Weeks just tweeted that Kaprizov is thinking of quitting hockey and becoming a fisherman…
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>tswoboda wrote:</div>
Something we can all appreciate here (from The Athletic):“Kaprizov, who scored an overtime winner and three points in his NHL debut in January, was unavailable for comment Tuesday night because he’s on a fishing trip in Siberia without internet or phone access”
Kevin Weeks just tweeted that Kaprizov is thinking of quitting hockey and becoming a fisherman…
“and hates walleye fishing”
Kuch didn’t dive. He took a solid whack to the back of his left leg where there is no protection. Get over it.
Kuch didn’t dive. He took a solid whack to the back of his left leg where there is no protection. Get over it.
LOL do bolts fans honestly think this??
He made that solid whack look like a 180 gr from a .30-06
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