2021 MN Wild/NHL Thread

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Looking at CapFriendly for the Bolts I see they have a negative Cap Space for next year. Anyone know how this works? The LTIR used only applies in one particular season right? There is no carryover to future seasons right? Gaborik and Nilsson LTIR contracts are done after this season. So, it would appear they will have some interesting decisions to make this offseason. $5M over next year’s Cap and have a ton of Free Agents. Will be interesting.

tswoboda wrote:

Point is an absolute stud, and he’s what like their 5th biggest star. Just an unreal team.

I’m the minority but I got no ill will towards Tampa. I can’t stand the team and like to see them lose, but kudos to them for keeping the dynasty together. They drafted and developed a bunch of studs and now are reaping the benefits. It’s not like they went out and bought a bunch of expensive UFAs to put themselves in cap hell.

Kucherov’s surgery has a 3-6 months recovery time and he came back in 4 months. Not sure what everyone is up in arms about?? I’m sure they held him out a few extra days or a week, but people crying about that are just jealous IMO. The 1 regular season game minimum would mean the end of college players coming up for the playoffs. Careful what you wish for.

I give them full props for their drafting prowess over the years and they built from the ground up, didn’t cut corners via FA, BUT they also knowingly circumvented the rules to keep their team together this season with the salary cap. They were able to keep 2-3 players on their team all season because of it vs having to trade or cut them to get under the cap (like every other team does) and then they miraculously get healthy at the start of the playoffs when the cap goes away, not with a few games left in the regular season, but the DAY the regular season is over. For comparison’s sake Vegas had to play the last week of the season with only 17 players for most games to stay cap compliant, they lost several of those games and ended up losing home ice advantage via a tiebreaker because of it, if they were able to play their full squad for those games odds are they would have got at least 1 other point and won the President’s Trophy and home ice.

College players joining their team is a joke if you’re doing an actual comparison and their rookie deals pro-rated for a few games so is miniscule from a cap perspective, plus EVERY team has that option….

It’s no different than the back loaded contracts circumvention that went on for a few years (as us Wild fans all know) and the LTIR circumvention going on, both of which will likely get corrected next collective bargaining agreement.

Again, they didn’t break the rules as they are currently written, but it sure smells & looks bad….

JoeMX1825 wrote:

wah wah wah wah

CaptainMusky wrote:

Looking at CapFriendly for the Bolts I see they have a negative Cap Space for next year. Anyone know how this works? The LTIR used only applies in one particular season right? There is no carryover to future seasons right? Gaborik and Nilsson LTIR contracts are done after this season. So, it would appear they will have some interesting decisions to make this offseason. $5M over next year’s Cap and have a ton of Free Agents. Will be interesting.

I’m gonna put my tinfoil hat on for this one… The obvious answer is GM Julien Brisbois walks into the locker room after they win the Cup and goes, “Alright great season boys, now who’s going under the knife next year?”

Here’s how Stamkos will show up to the rink the day before next season starts….

“What I slipped in the shower last night”

tswoboda wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>CaptainMusky wrote:</div>
Looking at CapFriendly for the Bolts I see they have a negative Cap Space for next year. Anyone know how this works? The LTIR used only applies in one particular season right? There is no carryover to future seasons right? Gaborik and Nilsson LTIR contracts are done after this season. So, it would appear they will have some interesting decisions to make this offseason. $5M over next year’s Cap and have a ton of Free Agents. Will be interesting.

I’m gonna put my tinfoil hat on for this one… The obvious answer is GM Julien Brisbois walks into the locker room after they win the Cup and goes, “Alright great season boys, now who’s going under the knife next year?”

Here’s the locker room scene right after he says that:

CaptainMusky wrote:

Looking at CapFriendly for the Bolts I see they have a negative Cap Space for next year. Anyone know how this works? The LTIR used only applies in one particular season right? There is no carryover to future seasons right? Gaborik and Nilsson LTIR contracts are done after this season. So, it would appear they will have some interesting decisions to make this offseason. $5M over next year’s Cap and have a ton of Free Agents. Will be interesting.

Colorado is in a bind too, they need to resign Landeskog, Grubbauer and MAKAR and i’m sure they are going to want Saad back too…at least they have 2 more years of paying MacKinnon peanuts on the dollar….

You think it was easy making the playoffs without Kuch? Heh heh heh

We just need to win the cup again so Tyler Johnson is content enough to waive his NTC. He’s from Spokane and has a house in British Columbia I believe. If he misses Fla and can come down to the island by us and visit his parents at the house he bought for them.

…by the way, his numbers don’t show it, but he is playing out of his mind right now. Maybe he is trying to make it a hard decision.

mplspug wrote:

…by the way, his numbers don’t show it, but he is playing out of his mind right now. Maybe he is trying to make it a hard decision.

He looked like he was shot out of a cannon last game…

Something is motivating him. Probably the fact he’s relegated to the 4th line with the rookie and the big rig. And the result is that line actually looks good.

CaptainMusky wrote:

Also Khusnutdinov is back skating. Wonderful news! He has 1 year left on his contract in KHL.

I’m really excited to see him a year older at the WJC this year, you could see the obvious skill last year but you could also tell he was young and inexperienced…

mplspug wrote:

Something is motivating him. Probably the fact he’s relegated to the 4th line with the rookie and the big rig. And the result is that line actually looks good.

It’s water over the bridge now, but it would have been nice if back in the day he would have accepted the Wild contract offer since at the time they were really the only one interested in him and had him at the prospects camp. Instead, he didnt think he had a decent shot of making the team and explored his options. Its definitely worked out for him, but he would have certainly helped the Wild over his career.

How long before we start seeing some contract announcements? You gotta think GMBG wants to get them done sooner rather than later so he can paint a better picture of what he has/needs and $ left in the bank moving towards xpac draft/draft/FA.

I personally think they will get Ek done first and his deal will be more team friendly than expected, this should hopefully set the tone with Kaprizov and Fiala, I think Fiala takes the most time…

JoeMX1825 wrote:

How long before we start seeing some contract announcements? You gotta think GMBG wants to get them done sooner rather than later so he can paint a better picture of what he has/needs and $ left in the bank moving towards xpac draft/draft/FA.

I wonder if there is any advantage to NOT signing guys like Fiala and Ek until after Expansion Draft. They are RFA’s and the way I thought it worked was Seattle could only select from players under contract (except goalies could be RFA unsigned, but need to have a qualifying offer prior to expansion). The way it read to me only players under contract could be chosen so someone like Fiala or Ek if they were not signed couldnt be chosen?

CaptainMusky wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>JoeMX1825 wrote:</div>
How long before we start seeing some contract announcements? You gotta think GMBG wants to get them done sooner rather than later so he can paint a better picture of what he has/needs and $ left in the bank moving towards xpac draft/draft/FA.

I wonder if there is any advantage to NOT signing guys like Fiala and Ek until after Expansion Draft. They are RFA’s and the way I thought it worked was Seattle could only select from players under contract (except goalies could be RFA unsigned, but need to have a qualifying offer prior to expansion). The way it read to me only players under contract could be chosen so someone like Fiala or Ek if they were not signed couldnt be chosen?

I seriously doubt that, because they are restricted they are under full team control and therefore basically a member of the franchise and could be picked. I guess the only benefit of having pending RFA wait to sign is that the expansion team drafting doesn’t have any insight into any contract talks that have already taken place before the draft and they can’t (per the rules) call his agent and discuss contract because that would be tampering.

Example – if Ek was left exposed and his agent had been telling GMBG he’ll only sign for $6+ per season when the market says Ek should be around $4 per season. They take Ek and then find out he wants $2+ more than market value or will sit out.

JoeMX1825 wrote:

I seriously doubt that, because they are restricted they are under full team control and therefore basically a member of the franchise and could be picked. I guess the only benefit of having pending RFA wait to sign is that the expansion team drafting doesn’t have any insight into any contract talks that have already taken place before the draft and they can’t (per the rules) call his agent and discuss contract because that would be tampering.

Example – if Ek was left exposed and his agent had been telling GMBG he’ll only sign for $6+ per season when the market says Ek should be around $4 per season. They take Ek and then find out he wants $2+ more than market value or will sit out.

Yeah, not sure, here is the exact text. If RFA means they are eligible why didnt they mention this in the Defenseman/Forward sections only the Goalie one?
“In addition, all NHL teams must meet the following minimum requirements regarding players exposed for selection in the draft:

* One defenseman who is a) under contract in 2021-22 and b) played in at least 40 NHL games the prior season or played in at least 70 NHL games in the prior two seasons.

* Two forwards who are a) under contract in 2021-22 and b) played at least 40 NHL games the prior season or played in at least 70 NHL games in the prior two seasons.

* One goalie who is under contract in 2021-22 or will be a restricted free agent at the end of his current contract immediately prior to 2021-22. If a team elects to make a restricted free agent goalie available to meet this requirement, that goalie must have received his qualifying offer prior to the submission of the team’s protected list.”

those rules are to protect the xpac team so bad teams who likely don’t have to many good players they can’t protect don’t then just offer up AHL scrubs that have no chance of playing in the NHL

JoeMX1825 wrote:

those rules are to protect the xpac team so bad teams who likely don’t have to many good players they can’t protect don’t then just offer up AHL scrubs that have no chance of playing in the NHL

Not disputing that at all, but why no reference to RFA status for defense or forwards when its spelled out for goalies? I realize there are fewer goalies on the team, but its just seems odd.

Jack Eichel is trending on twitter, not often do you see the NHL being talked about nationally so much…

My guess is that he goes to the Kings for Byfeld, Kurilev, Quick and a bunch or draft picks…

Uh-oh……

Dougie Hamilton: “We had a great season. We lost to a team that’s $18 million over the cap or whatever they are. They have an unbelievable goalie. I feel like we played them pretty close.”

CaptainMusky wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>JoeMX1825 wrote:</div>
those rules are to protect the xpac team so bad teams who likely don’t have to many good players they can’t protect don’t then just offer up AHL scrubs that have no chance of playing in the NHL

Not disputing that at all, but why no reference to RFA status for defense or forwards when its spelled out for goalies? I realize there are fewer goalies on the team, but its just seems odd.

Minimum exposed players and exempt players are 2 different things. A forward or defensemen that is an RFA does not count towards the minimum exposed list, but can still be selected.

Vegas got a 3 day free agent (UFA and RFA) negotiating period prior to the expansion draft and after the protected lists came out. That’s when Haula inked his contract with Vegas, contingent on the Wild trading them Tuch. I’m assuming Seattle will get the same free agent negotiating period. So for teams with major UFAs that definitely won’t sign with Seattle (Ovechkin, Landeskog, etc.) they can leave the UFA exposed and basically get an extra protected spot. Not really the case with RFAs since Seattle would own their rights even if they don’t agree on a contract.

JoeMX1825 wrote:

Jack Eichel is trending on twitter, not often do you see the NHL being talked about nationally so much…

My guess is that he goes to the Kings for Byfeld, Kurilev, Quick and a bunch or draft picks…

$20 says he goes to Minnesota for Rask, Parise, and Nordy. Parise joins Staal and Pommer as the latest aging vet to be shipped to Buffalo.

JoeMX1825 wrote:

Uh-oh……

Dougie Hamilton: “We had a great season. We lost to a team that’s $18 million over the cap or whatever they are. They have an unbelievable goalie. I feel like we played them pretty close.”

No one cares what awkward Dougie says. Also, if he’s going to say $18 million over the cap then he better go find Gaborik and Anders Nilson for the hand shake line since half that cap overage is their cap hits.

JoeMX1825 wrote:

Jack Eichel is trending on twitter, not often do you see the NHL being talked about nationally so much…

My guess is that he goes to the Kings for Byfeld, Kurilev, Quick and a bunch or draft picks…

I was reading something today that said the Kings are out. Friedman I think even agreed which that guy has the pulse of the NHL to a T. The article I read was saying they are more focused on a D man and are hoping to target Jones and don’t want to blow up their prospect pool to get Eichel and not have pieces to target Jones. Who knows, but this speculation is fun to see.

Its fun to speculate and get guys going in this thread

JoeMX1825 wrote:

Its fun to speculate and get guys going in this thread

Speculating on the Wild this off-season puts my brain in a pretzel everyday.

It’s fun to have something worth our interest again and the good thing (besides losing someone to xpac) is we’re likely going to lock up our star players for a long time and we have several top prospects in the system, the future looks bright, we’ve never been in the position the top teams are where every year its doing small tweaks to find the right fits around your star core players vs trying to draft top players that will play in 2-3 years and watching them fail year after year…

Agree on your first half.
The second half remains to be seen.

Disappointing series for the Avalanche. Up 2-0 and then lose 4 straight. Is Vegas or Tampa the favorite now?