<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>KP wrote:</div>
Doesn’t Rask have another year left on his contract? All year I’ve heard reports on here and else where that he will be gone. Are we going to buy him out or trade him?his buyout is something like $1 million x 2 years and saves $3 million in capspace next season…buh-bye Rask
Thanks for this. I was having a hard time finding the details on this.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>KP wrote:</div>
Doesn’t Rask have another year left on his contract? All year I’ve heard reports on here and else where that he will be gone. Are we going to buy him out or trade him?his buyout is something like $1 million x 2 years and saves $3 million in capspace next season…buh-bye Rask
Rask buyout saves $2.67m next year but costs $1.33m in 22-23. Bury him in the minors saves $1m next season and costs $0m in 22-23. 50% trade saves $2m next season and costs $0 in 22-23.
Also remember all the positive mumbo jumbo Billy G has said about Rask to the media. A buyout would be a big public dish of crow for him to eat after everything he’s said about the guy. Hopefully he and Deano were just spewing the Rask drivel and playing him to give them a chance at trading him.
Buyouts are a last resort that cost cap space in the future. Only to be used in worst case scenario when they absolutely need cap space right now. Joe is handing them out like Wild GMs handing out NMCs.
Can you buy out more than one player in a season? Honestly don’t know. You used to not be able too.
TSW I am guessing we are in the minority on the Scheifle hit but I agree with you 100 percent. Distance traveled is so stupid in this instance as the play would have been icing if Evans wasn’t first down. So of course he is going to have to travel some distance.
In my eyes the distance traveled is more like a player jumping on the ice racing across to the other side of the ice just to check someone when he is not normally on that side of the ice. Like what Clutterbuck used to do constantly.
Wheather you go the length of the ice half the length or from one side to the next shouldn’t really matter.
I agree he hit him too hard and because Evans never took his eye off the puck the second he went across the red line is why he got blown up.
his buyout is something like $1 million x 2 years and saves $3 million in capspace next season…buh-bye Rask
Thanks for this. I was having a hard time finding the details on this.
Just type Victor into google and the first suggestion will probably be “Victor Rask Buyout Calculator” lol.
Dead money is not ideal, but EVERY team typically has it (we had $2.8 of Dubnyk dead money on the books this year)
Dead money is not ideal, but EVERY team typically has it (we had $2.8 of Dubnyk dead money on the books this year)
Exactly. And they’d have more this year if they woulda bought Dubnyk out. They avoided the buyout, just like they will try to with Rask.
I guess I am failing to see the point in buying out Rask when he plays a position of need and it’s one season left. Obviously depends on other contracts and how they shake out but dragging out the finances on Rask just seams you are compounding the mistake made by making another and dragging it out. I think they try and trade him and eat some for next year, or bring him to camp and if he can’t make the team then he is playing in Iowa for less.
I know you do not like him Joe and can’t say I am a fan but do we expect them to be cup contenders next year anyway?
I guess this is why Bill didn’t hire any of us as consultants. Haha
My worry is if we keep Rask who does he play with? I don’t want to see him anywhere next to Kaprizov or Fiala! Where does Sturm play then? Ek? Rossi? The likely FA/Traded for center acquisition?
Marco Rossi’s dad just tweeted this:
https://twitter.com/michael79607679/status/1401118611654197253?s=21
Well at this point Fiala doesn’t have a wing or center unless you are penciling in Parise skating with him. ( you already had him bought out) What if they lose Greenway or Folingo to xpack. I would think Boldy would then make more sense slotting in that line for next year. I guess Hartman is an option on that line as well. So like we agreed there are several decisions to be made this off season the fact that Rask can play center makes him at least semi viable or an option for this team possibly for at least one year.
Marco’s smile at the end of that little clip says it all!
Whomever they lose in xpac draft they will just use that capspace to find a replacement in FA or trades.
I get that you don’t want to pay Rask’s $1.3 buyout for an extra year, but if there’s no place for him to play in the top 6 (please agree with me that there’s not) and we already have our bottom 6 pretty much figured out, so then where does he play? Perhaps going the waivers route and letting him sit in the minors at the lower caphit is the best play? It allows having the option to bring him up with any emergency C injuries?
I just think Kaprizov and Fiala will make it clear to GMBG during their contract negotiations that they demand a better option at center besides Rask, it’s ultimately hurting their bottom line from a production standpoint and the team is scoring fewer goals…It would be different if Rask was making $2 or less but the $4 million caphit is pretty decent…saving $2.80 million next season is significant and could allow somebody like Cole to sign a 1 year deal…
Buy Rask out now and deal with the extra $1.3 hit in 2 years…
Projected lines next year based on current contracts:
Zuccarelo – ? – Kaprizov
Fiala – Rask – Parise
Greenway – Ek – Folgno
Hartman – Sturm – ?
Players who could plug in = Rossi, Boldy, Mayhew
Suter – Spurgeon
Brodin – Dumba
Soucy – Addison
Players who ho could plug in = Belpido, Mermis
Capspace = $21 million?
Projected contract yearly caphits (obviously these are best guesses and a lower caphits by maxing term for Kap and Ek):
Kaprizov = $8.5 x 8
Fiala = $7 x 4
Ek – $4.5 x 8
There goes your capspace, now IF they do buyouts:
Parise saves $5.16 this season
Rask saves $2.67 this season
That could get you $8 to sign a decent center (FA-Derek Stepan or Granlund?) and a few minimum contract plug-in pieces to fill in the lineup.
This thinking is relying on Rossi/Boldy/Addison and maybe 1-2 other rookies making the team over the next few years on their rookie minimum contracts to help balance out the Parise buyout caphit…
I’m guessing Mayhew’s days with the Wild are done. His contract is up and he hasnt really gotten more than a cup of coffee at the NHL level, he will likely test the waters elsewhere.
BG is going to have to move Dumba even if they buyout the likes of Parise or Rask. Its possible I guess they retain some of the salary but that is risky especially in the Parise case, but less so with Rask. There is far too much money tied up in the D corp. So either Dumba is taken in expansion or he gets traded is my thought. I dont see a way they can keep him. He has a NMC kicking in for next year too so that will make it much more difficult to move them after that kicks in.
I’m guessing Mayhew’s days with the Wild are done. His contract is up and he hasnt really gotten more than a cup of coffee at the NHL level, he will likely test the waters elsewhere.
BG is going to have to move Dumba even if they buyout the likes of Parise or Rask. Its possible I guess they retain some of the salary but that is risky especially in the Parise case, but less so with Rask. There is far too much money tied up in the D corp. So either Dumba is taken in expansion or he gets traded is my thought. I dont see a way they can keep him. He has a NMC kicking in for next year too so that will make it much more difficult to move them after that kicks in.
I agree, I really really think they want to hold onto him but the $ just doesn’t work out and honestly he’s been an injury liability (not his fault) and been extremely lucky avoiding injury, how long will that luck last as he gets older? I do think Seattle would take him in the xpac draft so it comes down to what GMBG values more, the $6 in cap space he gets back and he makes his own decision on who to sign with it or getting a player + their salary and/or draft picks back? If he could turn that traded for player into a younger Center with upside, that would likely be the best solution (but then will they need to be protected in the xpac draft?)
No doubt they would like to keep him, I just don’t how they can.
There’s a story out that the LA Kings are looking to add 2 top 6 forwards to their lineup this offseason, with their stable of young top prospect centers could a Wild-Kings trade be in the works?
I could see a Fiala for Prospect(s) trade as a possibility
Fiala is a great player but if you project our salaries out 3-4 years he might be too expensive?? and remember you need to give up quality in order to get quality…Perhaps we could talk them into taking Dumba instead?
Byfeld/Turcotte/Vilardi/Madden/Kupari are all elite center prospects under the age of 21!
I honestly would rather lose Dumba than Fiala at this point. Dumba had a nice season but we had 6 defensemen that had “nice” seasons. I didn’t want to lose him until I saw our PP finally succeed without having to have his shot at the point.
Agreed, I am in the camp of moving on from Dumba. I think it would be easier to replace him than potentially a guy like Fiala. I just read Russo’s latest piece about projections for Expansion Draft. He mentioned that Fiala was late to camp because of negotiations with BG last time. He did hire a new agent since then so perhaps the issue was with the agent vs Fiala himself, but that is sort of vexing too. Will he play hardball?
Fiala absolutely has a case that his numbers would be a hell of alot better if he had consistent & capable linemates, so it will be difficult to comp his output vs other players his agent will compare him with…
Just yesterday “Wild Twitter” was in a frenzy about an Instagram post Fiala made. Simply stating “2020/21 I’m out”. LOL gotta love how people react to harmless social media posts.
I agree, I really really think they want to hold onto him but the $ just doesn’t work out and honestly he’s been an injury liability (not his fault) and been extremely lucky avoiding injury, how long will that luck last as he gets older? I do think Seattle would take him in the xpac draft so it comes down to what GMBG values more, the $6 in cap space he gets back and he makes his own decision on who to sign with it or getting a player + their salary and/or draft picks back? If he could turn that traded for player into a younger Center with upside, that would likely be the best solution (but then will they need to be protected in the xpac draft?)
I had wrote something last night but the copy gremlins deleted it again.
The dominos are interesting because like you said if Dumba isn’t exposed doesn’t that expose Greenway or Folingo. If Dumba is traded for a prospect or young center that has to be protected again you are then exposing another forward unless that player can take let’s say Parise protection spot. The d salaries currently are going to be hard to keep and continue to get better up front. Does that take some of the trade value away from Dumba knowing we have to trade him or he will go to Seattle?
Wild need to get bigger on the back end to for a legit playoff run. I agree Dumba is probably the most replaceable player but also brings some physical traits that his replacement won’t.
A lot of if this piece can move than this piece can stay back and fourth domino affect that can happen this off season which is why I think it will be interesting.
Sounds like Domi in Columbus will not be ready for the season so they will be looking for center help as well.
Wow, Breydon Point with some sweet silky mitts! I hope Ek is watching and learning….
Wild need to get bigger on the back end to for a legit playoff run.
This is a great point and if you look at all of the teams left in the playoffs, ALL of them have big defense that play physical (with Colorado being the possible exception as they are way more skilled than physical)
Other than Soucy and Dumba at times, we have no defenseman that play tough and physical and make the opposing offense miserable…our defense are perennial “Gentlemenly Play” Lady Byng finalists….
The good thing is that those types of tough players aren’t hard to find..
Tampa is looking good!
Tampa is looking good!
Amazing what adding nearly $20M of offense to your roster just in time for the playoffs can do eh?
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>JoeMX1825 wrote:</div>
Tampa is looking good!Amazing what adding nearly $20M of offense to your roster just in time for the playoffs can do eh?
kudos to their rehab guy for getting all the injured players magically healthy the exact day after the regular season ended…
Yes its within the rules (as of this season) but its an obvious circumvent/slap in the face to Bill Daly and the team GM’s who in some games had to play with only 15-16 skaters to stay cap compliant!
I bet they change the rule requiring at least 1 regular season game must be played to qualify for the playoffs…
Agreed Joe. Its within the rules, but it just seems so suspect. Oh well, they have a great team regardless perhaps the best goalie in the league and he would win them games every series on his own. Point is a legit budding star too.
Point is an absolute stud, and he’s what like their 5th biggest star. Just an unreal team.
I’m the minority but I got no ill will towards Tampa. I can’t stand the team and like to see them lose, but kudos to them for keeping the dynasty together. They drafted and developed a bunch of studs and now are reaping the benefits. It’s not like they went out and bought a bunch of expensive UFAs to put themselves in cap hell.
Kucherov’s surgery has a 3-6 months recovery time and he came back in 4 months. Not sure what everyone is up in arms about?? I’m sure they held him out a few extra days or a week, but people crying about that are just jealous IMO. The 1 regular season game minimum would mean the end of college players coming up for the playoffs. Careful what you wish for.
BG making front office moves. Adding Ray Shero as senior advisor to the GM. He’s got GM cred and BG is surrounding himself with well-respected guys.
Also Khusnutdinov is back skating. Wonderful news! He has 1 year left on his contract in KHL.
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