Scared, soft, complacent… Whatever you wanna call it, it’s not good. Dude should not be in the lineup with Parise and Boldy both available.
No doubt…
Odd with all the postseason experience he has. I expected better. I thought he was solid the second half of the season.
We accomplished the goal of getting a road split, if we hold serve at home it’s over in 6…
We had our chances and the flower stood on his head again, they will start to go in.
I didn’t think Fleury could do it again. There weren’t as many grade A chances tonight but he was phenomenal again. I thought we lost our legs in the second two periods.
Flower was unreal last night. He was the difference. Johanson did not look good, but did have a couple impressive backchecks that broke up scoring chances. No way Parise is able to skate like he did.
The Wild played pretty well overall just couldnt get a goal. The refs were letting a lot go which I am fine with provided its on both sides.
curious if Spurgeon will survive past the 1st round, seems like they are making a point of finishing EVERY check on him. That’s going to wear alot on his small frame after a 6-7 game series…
Happy to see Dumba bearhug Pietrangelo for the unnecessary crosscheck on Kaprizov. They are really going out of their way to target him. Greenway was sure going after Reaves all night. Kept holding his ground. Love to see it.
Spurgeon is taking a beating for sure. He does seem to have a good ability of getting glancing blows a lot of the time, but we will see how much it takes a toll on him.
I had this reply typed up last night, but the quote of a quote bug killed it.
I see on this & other boards and Wild fan chats that everyone is disgusted with Mojo and Rask and who can we swap around or god forbid bring Parise in for one of them.
I think most folks are forgetting that this season wasn’t in GMBG’s plan for a playoff run, so the team is not built for a playoff run. Of course he’ll never admit it, but this shortened season was GMBG’s last chance to truly evaluate his teams talent, see what Kaprizov looks like, are he, Fiala and Ek worth the long term contracts they’ll likely demand and finally make an offseason list of what this team needs to make serious runs in the playoffs moving forward.
His pre-season plan likely included getting draft picks by selling off his UFA players at the deadline, perhaps trading Dumba for a center or high draft picks…
BUT
This team started to play good hockey, Kaprizov is a budding superstar and they earned a playoff spot and so he had to put his plan on hold and push forward with the players he had for the playoffs.
So it’s not ideal to have a soft player like Mojo playing with Fiala, but it’s who he has to work with, same with Rask…
The gaps in this team’s roster will be addressed this offseason, but there’s not much they can do right now to hide our warts (potentially they could call up Boldy, but that’s alot of pressure to put on a 19 year old)
I’m just going to enjoy this playoffs moving forward and not harp on Rask or Mojo or Bjugstad anymore, they will be replaced next year and that’s when things get serious for this team making runs for the cup.
I think that’s a fair assessment. I might be biased based off past performance, but I just think swapping 90 for 11 gives us a better lineup right now.
Johansson and Bjugstad are likely not back next year, but that was the plan anyway like mentioned above. Not concerned long term with them, just want to do what we can to give us the best chance to win right now while we’re still alive.
I think that’s a fair assessment. I might be biased based off past performance, but I just think swapping 90 for 11 gives us a better lineup right now.
Johansson and Bjugstad are likely not back next year, but that was the plan anyway like mentioned above. Not concerned long term with them, just want to do what we can to give us the best chance to win right now while we’re still alive.
I agree 11 can give us more net front skillset to hopefully get a few dirty goals on Fleury
BUT
11 can’t hang with the speed of the game in every other situation, so he’s too 1 dimensional and a liability to earn a roster spot unfortunately…Matt Boldy on the other hand is an interesting option outside of his ZERO NHL experience, he has the same net front skillset and can skate…
I think they use the same roster in game 3, but if they still have issues scoring goals and Mojo doesn’t show any improvement I bet we see changes game 4.
I’m just going to enjoy this playoffs moving forward and not harp on Rask or Mojo or Bjugstad anymore, they will be replaced next year and that’s when things get serious for this team making runs for the cup.
Agreed with everything else you mentioned, but wanted to double down on this. I think most here figured the Wild would contend for the playoffs, but likely would have been the 4th seed. I dont think anyone saw what they did to get 3rd and by a wide margin coming at all.
This team is going to be very different next year, but for now I am just enjoying what we have and seeing where it leads.
They have played well enough to win both games or perhaps lose both. That’s how the playoffs go. Its a fun ride most times (except when you run into the Hawks in the first round).
Right on Joe, the season certainly didn’t play out like most expected and Billy G had to call an audible on his plan. Good problem to have really. But once the deadline passed and prospects were signed, future considerations are basically put on the back burner and all attention goes toward this season. What can the team do to win as many games as possible in the playoffs this year? That’s the question that matters right now.
Mojo being glued to Fiala paints a pretty vivid picture that something is going on behind the scenes with Parise. Right or wrong, it just seems like BG and DE are more set on sending some kind of message than putting the best team on the ice.
I think after the last 10-15 regular season games and 2 playoff games it’s pretty obvious Johansson is the weak spot in the forward group. He had a couple decent games when he first got paired with Fiala and the powerplay was on fire. But since then, he’s been a blackhole when the puck comes his way.
Its pretty crazy how players can be streaky. I am not saying that’s what is in store for Johanson, but I wouldn’t be shocked. I think the main reason its him over Parise is he is a much faster skater. Parise is certainly better around the net, but there were at least 2 backchecks in last night’s game alone that Johanson broke up a scoring chance and there was no way Parise would have been able to keep up. Perhaps if Parise was out there they wouldn’t have been in that same position, but we will never know.
If they lose game 3 I expect changes. Will it be Parise? We will see. Personally Id give Rau a shot over him.
Friedman just tweeted that some NHL teams are taking additional Covid tests today as a follow up to last night’s results. They are hoping for false positives.
At this stage and with the likely majority of the players exposed to, contracted or been vaccinated against, why are they still testing?
Friedman just tweeted that some NHL teams are taking additional Covid tests today as a follow up to last night’s results. They are hoping for false positives.
At this stage and with the likely majority of the players exposed to, contracted or been vaccinated against, why are they still testing?
I guess it’s possible some players passed on getting the vaccine?
Not going to quote some of the above Parise comments but from my office chair/couch coaching opinion is why not put Parise in? Fleury is standing on his head and Parise is a master at deflecting pucks in. Yeah his speed isnt there anymore but they to do something to crack Fleury. I bet if Parise gets a chance to get on the ice he will bust his ass and play with a big chip on his shoulder.
Not going to quote some of the above Parise comments but from my office chair/couch coaching opinion is why not put Parise in?
I’ll quote it for you:
… paints a pretty vivid picture that something is going on behind the scenes with Parise. Right or wrong, it just seems like BG and DE are more set on sending some kind of message than putting the best team on the ice.
The way I look at it, the Wild are not making it to the cup. No chance. Obviously I hope they do, but it’s just not realistic. So why not bring Boldy in this year? Give him some playoff experience. That way, in a year from now, we’re not looking back wishing he would have had some ice time this season.
We gotta stop with the “just make the playoffs” mentality. In my opinion, we need to take some chances now so we can go deep in the next few years. We have the guy so let’s use him.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>CaptainMusky wrote:</div>
Friedman just tweeted that some NHL teams are taking additional Covid tests today as a follow up to last night’s results. They are hoping for false positives.
At this stage and with the likely majority of the players exposed to, contracted or been vaccinated against, why are they still testing?I guess it’s possible some players passed on getting the vaccine?
I suppose, but most likely they were already exposed to it regardless and either came down with it or didnt get sick.
One team mentioned just now is the Blues. Perron I believe was out for game one after testing positive. Now they are getting conflicting results. This is a mess, that particular test being used is not very accurate.
The way I look at it, the Wild are not making it to the cup. No chance. Obviously I hope they do, but it’s just not realistic. So why not bring Boldy in this year? Give him some playoff experience. That way, in a year from now, we’re not looking back wishing he would have had some ice time this season.
We gotta stop with the “just make the playoffs” mentality. In my opinion, we need to take some chances now so we can go deep in the next few years. We have the guy so let’s use him.
So they should build for future playoff success by prioritizing a prospect’s development over winning playoff games? Better check the math on that one. Maybe the best way to get rid of the “just make the playoffs mentality” is to **oh idk** win some playoff hockey games 
They’re in the playoffs, even up against one of the best teams in the league, and it’s a team they can beat. The only goal should be to win the next game and then win as many games as possible. That’s how you build a winning culture and set up your key young players for future playoff success.
You really think getting 1 prospect a few playoff games is more beneficial than getting the entire team a playoff series win?
I too think there’s alot more going on behind the scenes with Parise vs just saying they want to put the best team on the ice. The owner is writing a pretty hefty check to Parise for him to be sitting up in the press box eating popcorn. When word got out that Parise’s AGENT was trying to setup a face to face meeting with the coach and GM you know they have major issues going on…
I can see a scenario where a heated argument happened and the Coach or GM yells “You’ll never playing another f’ing game in that jersey again” A subsequent meeting between GMBG and Parise’s agent probably ended with an agreement to waive his NTC and every attempt will be made to try and trade him before he’s bought out…
Parise had ample opportunities early in the year and did nothing with it, he looked slow and disinterested in giving 100% effort, putting him in now would solve nothing but showing management will back down if forced…
The thought of Parise getting traded, the Wild likely having to retain a bunch of his salary and/or taking on some other bad contract does not intrigue me at all. You know if things went down as you suggested Joe that Parise would do everything in his power to give the Wild the double middle finger solute and retire early so we have the recapture penalties.
I’d go the buyout route and just cut bait. Yeah you are paying him $833K for a few years after his contract would have been up, but the Cap will be going up by then and that’s chump change.
They’re in the playoffs, even up against one of the best teams in the league, and it’s a team they can beat. The only goal should be to win the next game and then win as many games as possible. That’s how you build a winning culture and set up your key young players for future playoff success.
You really think getting 1 prospect a few playoff games is more beneficial than getting the entire team a playoff series win?
100% Unless there are a string of injuries or something Boldy doesnt need to play this post season. It really will not help or hurt him either way. The best thing for him is to get more eased into the NHL than thrust right into the oven of the NHL playoffs.
There are vets on this team with Cup cred and there is no chance they will not do everything in their power to win games.
Vegas is ripe for the picking, lets see how this plays out vs experimenting with a high end prospect.
Not going to quote some of the above Parise comments but from my office chair/couch coaching opinion is why not put Parise in? Fleury is standing on his head and Parise is a master at deflecting pucks in.
This is pretty much what they said on KFAN earlier. Get someone in there that scores goals right by the net. Parise has done that his entire career and he’s got playoff credentials. I think its time to get him in there too. With the way Fleury is playing, you need to score greasy goals now.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>KP wrote:</div>
Not going to quote some of the above Parise comments but from my office chair/couch coaching opinion is why not put Parise in? Fleury is standing on his head and Parise is a master at deflecting pucks in.This is pretty much what they said on KFAN earlier. Get someone in there that scores goals right by the net. Parise has done that his entire career and he’s got playoff credentials. I think its time to get him in there too. With the way Fleury is playing, you need to score greasy goals now.
Boldy is just as good in front of the net and a much bigger,faster, stronger player…if they do any changes it’s likely calling him up for Mojo or Bjugstad…
I could be wrong, but I think Parise is never putting on the Wild jersey again…
Boldy is just as good in front of the net and a much bigger,faster, stronger player
Boldy has never played in a single NHL game, much less NHL playoffs. He is completely unproven at this level. Parise has more playoff experience than any player on the roster. I’ll take him over an unproven rookie.
Boldy will get his chance eventually. I don’t doubt he’s bigger, stronger, fresher, younger than Parise.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>JoeMX1825 wrote:</div>
Boldy is just as good in front of the net and a much bigger,faster, stronger playerBoldy has never played in a single NHL game, much less NHL playoffs. He is completely unproven at this level. Parise has more playoff experience than any player on the roster. I’ll take him over an unproven rookie.
agreed, but he’s also not in the doghouse of the coach and GM…
agreed, but he’s also not in the doghouse of the coach and GM…
I think this whole thing goes all the way back to Vegas when Parise was selfish at the end of the third and didnt get off the ice. Then when he was benched and asked about it his comments he made that his teammates supported him and he didnt think he did anything wrong. That was the tipping point for me.
The thought of Parise getting traded, the Wild likely having to retain a bunch of his salary and/or taking on some other bad contract does not intrigue me at all. You know if things went down as you suggested Joe that Parise would do everything in his power to give the Wild the double middle finger solute and retire early so we have the recapture penalties.
I’d go the buyout route and just cut bait. Yeah you are paying him $833K for a few years after his contract would have been up, but the Cap will be going up by then and that’s chump change.
Right. On. If Parise gets traded the whole organization will be on pins and needles until the day his contract expires. He has the power to hold them hostage and that’s why I’ve said from day 1 they cannot force an unhappy Parise out of town.
I really think whatever was discussed at the meeting his agent setup the last week of the regular season with Dean and Billy was the culmination of everything and the end of Parise with the Wild. I’ll admit if i’m wrong, but that’s what it looks like to me…
I really think whatever was discussed at the meeting his agent setup the last week of the regular season with Dean and Billy was the culmination of everything and the end of Parise with the Wild. I’ll admit if i’m wrong, but that’s what it looks like to me…
I dont think you are wrong about this at all. I think this is the end as well.
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