2021 MN Wild/NHL Thread

  • JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17848
    #1995125

    New season, new thread

    Looks like the new season will start on January 13th, NHL wants to get a 56 game regular season in and try to award the cup around the typical June timeframe. Word is all players on loan overseas (Marco Rossi as an example) have been told to pack up and return home to get their mandated quarantine started asap. Kaprizov arrived in MN last Wednesday so I expect we’ll see some video of him finally skating at Tria this week!!!

    This NHL season cant come soon enough!!!!

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11586
    #1995136

    Interesting how this will play out. Talking about realignment and having Canadian teams playing each other.

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11036
    #1995141

    Sounds like Zuccerello already has some planned time off to begin the season per Russo.

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17361
    #1995182

    It wouldn’t surprise me if some of the players are already vaccinated by the time the season starts.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17848
    #1995197

    It wouldn’t surprise me if some of the players are already vaccinated by the time the season starts.

    While I too thought about that for all of the leagues starting up soon (NHL, NBA, etc) I think the PR nightmare if that ever got out would destroy the leagues…

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22764
    #1995210

    Sounds like Zuccerello already has some planned time off to begin the season per Russo.

    Yeah, he had arm surgery for the broken arm he had gotten like the first game he played for the stars after being traded. No wonder he wasnt really himself last year. Hopefully he returns fully healthy because he was a ghost last year.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22764
    #1995213

    It wouldn’t surprise me if some of the players are already vaccinated by the time the season starts.

    At first reading the reports on the vaccine trials I was really optimistic, but now I have been reading stuff that shows the trials were somewhat set up to be a success and that concerns me. I see an old woman in the UK received one of the vaccines, a first outside the trial. Hopefully it goes well for her. Honestly, knowing what I know now, if I was a professional athlete there is zero chance I would be getting this vaccine.

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11630
    #1995224

    Looks like the new season will start on January 13th, NHL wants to get a 56 game regular season in and try to award the cup around the typical June timeframe.

    Where did you see this January 13 date? I haven’t seen anything other than negotiations continue, so if it’s real, it’s good news. I know some teams have told their players to get in position for a possible training camp, but is this really close to official?

    Sorry to be glass-half-empty guy, but I’m finding it a little hard to believe at this point. The NHL has displayed a lot of irrational exuberance when it comes to plans to start the season. So now with just over a month to go and no formal announcement or plans, they are going to cold start a 56 game season during the peak of the pandemic? Hmmmm.

    I was thinking we’d be lucky to see a 30-something game season starting in February.

    Grouse

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22764
    #1995229

    Jan 13th was the target date announced late yesterday. Negotiations have really ramped up in recent days and it will get done soon. There is no way this season isnt going to start its just a matter of when and how many games they can slam in. Going to suck with the Wild in the “Pacific” Division again. Grrr.

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17361
    #1995246

    if I was a professional athlete there is zero chance I would be getting this vaccine.

    I’m guessing that there will be an eventual mandate for it with a lot of athletes. And if they opt out, they may not be permitted to play. Sort of like an employer mandating that their employees get it in some fields of work.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22764
    #1995247

    I’m guessing that there will be an eventual mandate for it with a lot of athletes. And if they opt out, they may not be permitted to play. Sort of like an employer mandating that their employees get it in some fields of work.

    I dont doubt that at all, but that gets to be a very slippery slope. It will be interesting to see how it plays out. Sounds like they have the financials all finalized, its just down to schedule, divisions and such now.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22764
    #1995270

    Oof, new allegations just leaked about the cover-up of a sexual assault in Pitt’s AHL team that involved a cover-up by BG. This doesn’t sound good at all if true. Incident was in 2018 involving the wife of one of the coaches and the head coach. Ish. Hope this isnt true.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17848
    #1995289

    Oof, new allegations just leaked about the cover-up of a sexual assault in Pitt’s AHL team that involved a cover-up by BG. This doesn’t sound good at all if true. Incident was in 2018 involving the wife of one of the coaches and the head coach. Ish. Hope this isnt true.

    Here’s the story (https://www.tsn.ca/pittsburgh-penguins-told-ahl-coach-to-stay-quiet-about-wife-s-sexual-assault-lawsuit-says-1.1561342)

    This is not good at all, although I don’t think BillyG would have made this decision on his own (he was likely instructed from upper management in the org to tell them to keep it quiet) it will be interesting to see what the Wild does with him since he was responsible for the AHL team at that time…

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11630
    #1995290

    Oof, new allegations just leaked about the cover-up of a sexual assault in Pitt’s AHL team that involved a cover-up by BG. This doesn’t sound good at all if true. Incident was in 2018 involving the wife of one of the coaches and the head coach. Ish. Hope this isnt true.

    This could be really, really bad.

    https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/penguins/2020/12/08/pittsburgh-penguins-ahl-coach-jarrod-skalde-lawusit/stories/202012080105

    Let’s hope the Pens office and Gurin played this one right down the middle and did not cover up or ignore previous allegations against this coach.

    Grouse

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17848
    #1995296

    BillyG could be the fall guy here since he was the lowest level of Management and responsible for the AHL team…Sounds like the Penguins are trying to get this case thrown out on a timing technicality even though the accused didn’t deny it happened and apologized.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22764
    #1995298

    BillyG could be the fall guy here since he was the lowest level of Management and responsible for the AHL team…Sounds like the Penguins are trying to get this case thrown out on a timing technicality even though the accused didn’t deny it happened…

    And the accused reportedly apologized. This doesnt look good, hopefully BG didnt try to suppress this. Can’t we have nice things?!

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11630
    #1995301

    The allegation that this fired coach was a serial offender sounds very ominous. If there were previous allegations brought to the Penguins management and Gurin, and they were not acted on, or even worse covered up…

    Totally agree, Musky. This does not look good.

    Grouse

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11586
    #1995358

    Yowzers yeah the article is not good.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11586
    #1995361

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>JoeMX1825 wrote:</div>
    Looks like the new season will start on January 13th, NHL wants to get a 56 game regular season in and try to award the cup around the typical June timeframe.

    Where did you see this January 13 date? I haven’t seen anything other than negotiations continue, so if it’s real, it’s good news. I know some teams have told their players to get in position for a possible training camp, but is this really close to official?

    Sorry to be glass-half-empty guy, but I’m finding it a little hard to believe at this point. The NHL has displayed a lot of irrational exuberance when it comes to plans to start the season. So now with just over a month to go and no formal announcement or plans, they are going to cold start a 56 game season during the peak of the pandemic? Hmmmm.

    I was thinking we’d be lucky to see a 30-something game season starting in February.

    Grouse

    TSN is reporting that the two side are putting their CBA differences aside and they would like to get the season started on Jan 13 with a ten day training camp. All the other sports have played or are being played through the pandemic so I don’t see why the NHL wouldn’t do the same. If they don’t the NHL may be looking at some serious financial losses that may force them or at least some teams to close their doors for the foreseeable future.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17848
    #1995375

    ok, topic outside of the BillyG fiasco

    What will the Tampa Bay Lightening do with BOTH Cerelli and Cernak needing to be signed to new deals before they join training camp? Tampa has zero cap space and only players with NTC’s that they could trade to make up enough cap space…yikes!

    Could Nashville swoop in with an offer sheet for Cerelli?

    mojogunter
    Posts: 3301
    #1995377

    The big difference between the NHL and sports like the NFL, NBA, and MLB is that the NHL does not have a lucrative national TV contract to carry them through the season without fans in the seats. The majority of the revenue comes from ticket sales. I believe that is one reason they are releasing retro jerseys hoping many fans buy them. That is also the reason there were 3rd jerseys released years ago.

    TSN is reporting that the two side are putting their CBA differences aside and they would like to get the season started on Jan 13 with a ten day training camp. All the other sports have played or are being played through the pandemic so I don’t see why the NHL wouldn’t do the same. If they don’t the NHL may be looking at some serious financial losses that may force them or at least some teams to close their doors for the foreseeable future.

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17361
    #1995378

    The big difference between the NHL and sports like the NFL, NBA, and MLB is that the NHL does not have a lucrative national TV contract to carry them through the season without fans in the seats.

    I agree with that statement on the NFL. The MLB and NBA, not so much. This year’s world series had the lowest rated television ratings in like 20 years or something while Sunday Night Football is still the top watched program every week.

    This is what I could find on national TV deals for the NBA, NHL, MLB, and NFL:
    NHL – 10 year deal with NBC for $2 billion
    NBA – 9 year deal with ABC/ESPN/TNT for $2.66 billion
    MLB – 7 year deal with Turner Sports for $3.2 billion
    NFL – 10 year deal with ESPN/CBS/FOX/NBC for $39.6 billion

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22764
    #1995382

    ok, topic outside of the BillyG fiasco

    What will the Tampa Bay Lightening do with BOTH Cerelli and Cernak needing to be signed to new deals before they join training camp? Tampa has zero cap space and only players with NTC’s that they could trade to make up enough cap space…yikes!

    Could Nashville swoop in with an offer sheet for Cerelli?

    This will be really interesting to see. Without TB making some sort of move there is no way those guys will be back.
    I was actually hoping BG would have taking a swing and getting Cirelli earlier via trade, but they couldnt take rostered players back only prospects or picks which the Wild could afford picks now.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17848
    #1995432

    I too wanted Cerelli bad…he’s a proven center with still some upside, maybe they did take a shot but the price was to high? Now the Lightning is going to be forced to pay the teams with capspace to take good players off their roster IF the player would even accept the trade…hard to imagine a player lifting their ntc to go to a terrible rebuilding team like Detroit.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11586
    #1995448

    The big difference between the NHL and sports like the NFL, NBA, and MLB is that the NHL does not have a lucrative national TV contract to carry them through the season without fans in the seats. The majority of the revenue comes from ticket sales. I believe that is one reason they are releasing retro jerseys hoping many fans buy them. That is also the reason there were 3rd jerseys released years ago.

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Ripjiggen wrote:</div>
    TSN is reporting that the two side are putting their CBA differences aside and they would like to get the season started on Jan 13 with a ten day training camp. All the other sports have played or are being played through the pandemic so I don’t see why the NHL wouldn’t do the same. If they don’t the NHL may be looking at some serious financial losses that may force them or at least some teams to close their doors for the foreseeable future.

    I guess my point was All major sports are being played including soccer and college sports for the most part. So the NHL will also be playing. To me the major difference is they have a good number Canadian teams to deal with unlike most other American sports that might have 1.

    mojogunter
    Posts: 3301
    #1995527

    NHL – 10 year deal with NBC for $2 billion (This is 200 million a year)
    NBA – 9 year deal with ABC/ESPN/TNT for $2.66 billion (This is 2.6 per year}
    MLB – 7 year deal with Turner Sports for $3.2 billion (This is 1.6 billion a year)
    NFL – 10 year deal with ESPN/CBS/FOX/NBC for $39.6 billion (5 Billion a Year)

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>mojogunter wrote:</div>
    The big difference between the NHL and sports like the NFL, NBA, and MLB is that the NHL does not have a lucrative national TV contract to carry them through the season without fans in the seats.

    I agree with that statement on the NFL. The MLB and NBA, not so much. This year’s world series had the lowest rated television ratings in like 20 years or something while Sunday Night Football is still the top watched program every week.

    This is what I could find on national TV deals for the NBA, NHL, MLB, and NFL:
    NHL – 10 year deal with NBC for $2 billion
    NBA – 9 year deal with ABC/ESPN/TNT for $2.66 billion
    MLB – 7 year deal with Turner Sports for $3.2 billion
    NFL – 10 year deal with ESPN/CBS/FOX/NBC for $39.6 billion

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16650
    #1995528

    My math skills aren’t great but those numbers are icky.

    mojogunter
    Posts: 3301
    #1995579

    Yeah the issue is some sports have more than one TV contact from different networks not just the ones he listed, and they are not included in gimruis numbers. I just used his format to make my point by cut and pasting. Who knows if my two sources are correct or if Gimruis are correct. Could be fake news. )

    My math skills aren’t great but those numbers are icky.

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