I have had a front row seat (as I have for many years) to observe the tribal harvest on Mille Lacs. The video link below is what I witnessed on the evening of April 17th. It was taken while sitting on my dock as some tribal rigs were cruising continuously back and forth along the shoreline. This one in the video stood out more than most that came by. Turn up the volume so you can experience what my neighbors and I did for a number of nights!
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2017 Spring Entertainment!
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roosterrousterInactiveThe "IGH"...Posts: 2092April 26, 2017 at 3:12 pm #1690784
I’m a long ways from having any understanding on how in modern times any one group of people are allowed rights no others are. Doubt anyone could ever convince me this is right. Glad I don’t have it in my face on a regular basis – my frustration would grow quickly.
April 26, 2017 at 3:29 pm #1690788Thanks for posting, and please keep them coming. Any nets out yet?
April 26, 2017 at 3:34 pm #1690791I’m glad to be 100+ miles away from this. I could not calmly sit and observe this for a minute.
These cowards should be prosecuted to the fullest extent for killing fish and wanton waste.
April 26, 2017 at 3:35 pm #1690792Actually the local DNR officer was on it quickly. Unfortunately all he could do is turn it over the evidence to the band’s (FDL) DNR for prosecution of wanton waste.
roosterrousterInactiveThe "IGH"...Posts: 2092April 26, 2017 at 3:43 pm #1690798Actually the local DNR officer was on it quickly. Unfortunately all he could do is turn it over the evidence to the band’s (FDL) DNR for prosecution of wanton waste.
Hhmm…Good to hear they followed through…
April 26, 2017 at 3:43 pm #1690799Actually the local DNR officer was on it quickly. Unfortunately all he could do is turn it over the evidence to the band’s (FDL) DNR for prosecution of wanton waste.
I’m sure the punishment there will be swift, powerful, and effective
April 26, 2017 at 4:41 pm #1690817should have thrown them a qt. of oil to put in the generator.
hey, can we keep the bass? I dunno. priceless.April 26, 2017 at 8:18 pm #1690871Not trying to be a JD Winston here, however fish and game violations or abuses does not discriminate only to the “red man”. How many deer poaching or gross overlimits of fish have been revealed. Not even considering all the unseen or “wink-wink” of the “non-indigenous” peoples. Just saying…
April 27, 2017 at 8:14 am #1690965Actually the local DNR officer was on it quickly. Unfortunately all he could do is turn it over the evidence to the band’s (FDL) DNR for prosecution of wanton waste.
There are no Minnesota courts that have jurisdiction. Unfortunately, this will go nowhere.
-J.
April 27, 2017 at 8:45 am #1690970This is LUDACRIS
1st take one of the countries premier Walleye lakes and allow the Natural reproduction process to be stunted due to some treaty that was established back when ever and then at the same time, protect the BASS.
I have never seen anything so upside in, inisde down.
Amazing.
And I do agree with some of the comments, no way could I sit there and watch that take place. I’d be looking deep into the treaties to find where it also stated at one time, more than 3 could/should be considered a war party.
Okay, better now
Thanks for sharingbasseyesPosts: 2509April 27, 2017 at 11:35 am #1691009All I got’s to say is, state run casinos and this all goes away.
TumaInactiveFarmington, MNPosts: 1403shady5Posts: 491April 27, 2017 at 7:05 pm #1691094Come on, everyone, this is for “ceremonial” purposes. You know, running generators on pontoons is JUST LIKE the old days!
April 27, 2017 at 7:47 pm #1691096monkeybutts.Wish I could say what I really want to.I have a hunch I would be booted off the site.I am sure most of you feel the same way.
April 27, 2017 at 8:57 pm #1691102Not trying to be a JD Winston here, however fish and game violations or abuses does not discriminate only to the “red man”.
Actually Andy it does, and that is the problem. If I were caught on video breaking the law (wanton waste is illegal even if the bass was in season), I would be ticketed at the very least.
Bass_attackPosts: 292April 27, 2017 at 9:29 pm #1691105I would feel differently about this if they used handmade birch bark canoes and sharpened sticks because maybe it would be traditional. Instead lets go out here in our gore tex rain gear, triple point barbed spears, run our lights from a generator that lights up the whole bottom of the lake, and get to the spot with the luxary of a outboard motor. Clearly they are practicing the tradition of their ancestors.
Want some real entertainment sink a soft rubber walleye at the bottom with a string to the dock and play tug o war after they spear itApril 27, 2017 at 9:46 pm #1691107<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Walleyestudent Andy Cox wrote:</div>
Not trying to be a JD Winston here, however fish and game violations or abuses does not discriminate only to the “red man”.Actually Andy it does, and that is the problem. If I were caught on video breaking the law (wanton waste is illegal even if the <strong class=”ido-tag-strong”>bass was in season), I would be ticketed at the very least.
And I truly try to stay objective in these events, that is what separates the “high ground” from the finger pointing.
Despite what some have posted here, do you or anyone know whether in fact they were ticketed or issued a citation? Maybe…maybe not? Possibly they were?
As far as the discrimination goes, remember the “deer poacher” last year that got off because the law enforcement bungled the warrant allowance and GPS’d his truck and it all got dismissed because of that misstep and everyone knows he’s guilty.
Or “Operation Squarehook” that took years to gather evidence and build the case only to have multiple indictments being dismissed. And FWIW, many involved were the buyers, restaurant owners that were as much or more guilty. No they were not “the red men”.April 27, 2017 at 10:22 pm #1691113It’s not the wanton waste that bothers me the most. But the way state anglers are assessed with hooking mortality and the bands are not assessed spearing or netting mortality. Also the disruption of the spawning walleyes. This goes on through out the night during the spawn. I wish more people could see what we have witnessed for years!
April 28, 2017 at 8:58 am #1691156Thanks for sharing….simply disgusting, and don’t care what clan, nation, citizenship, state, creed, color or whatever the f you are…smoking a bass to let die or having a walleye fall off your spear should be counted for the poundage…really want to know their spearing mortality number, but that will never happen. The only count we would get is from folks like yourself video taping or witnessing this (in that clip they are 1 for 3 – 2 fish dead and not collected). And I would gain faith with the FDL if they prosecuted these clowns and published it, or confirm with the MN DNR that this was handled properly. Any other citizen busted would be in the Cuffs and Collars section (as they should). And kudos, I couldn’t of held back.
April 28, 2017 at 9:44 am #1691175Operation Squarehook is exactly why the MN DNR will do nothing. Why should they? Any case they take to court will simply get tossed out. No matter how bad the crime or how strong the evidence. We are all screwed!
-J.
April 28, 2017 at 11:02 am #1691190<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>BigWerm wrote:</div>
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Walleyestudent Andy Cox wrote:</div>
Not trying to be a JD Winston here, however fish and game violations or abuses does not discriminate only to the “red man”.Actually Andy it does, and that is the problem. If I were caught on video breaking the law (wanton waste is illegal even if the <strong class=”ido-tag-strong”>bass was in season), I would be ticketed at the very least.
And I truly try to stay objective in these events, that is what separates the “high ground” from the finger pointing.
Despite what some have posted here, do you or anyone know whether in fact they were ticketed or issued a citation? Maybe…maybe not? Possibly they were?
As far as the discrimination goes, remember the “deer poacher” last year that got off because the law enforcement bungled the warrant allowance and GPS’d his truck and it all got dismissed because of that misstep and everyone knows he’s guilty.
Or “Operation Squarehook” that took years to gather evidence and build the case only to have multiple indictments being dismissed. And FWIW, many involved were the buyers, restaurant owners that were as much or more guilty. No they were not “the red men”.Andy I think it is pretty safe to assume there were no tickets issued, but not knowing and the lack of transparency (not just on this specific example, but in general) is a major factor in this whole thing. Additionally, having an entirely separate judicial system based off of race, is something we as a country supported moving past decades ago…except in this scenario. Operation Squarehook falls in a similar category as this imo. Something that is illegal (commercial harvest w/out permit) under both Tribal and MN law. However, the laws were not applied due to the race of the harvesting party having it’s own separate and unequal judicial system. And if the providers are not found guilty of anything, it’s pretty difficult to find the purchasers guilty.
The “deer poacher” is a poor example, as he got off due to constitutionally illegal (and ill advised) GPS tracking w/out warrant. As much as I disagree with what he supposedly did, anyone of any race/color/creed would have gotten off for the same reason.
April 28, 2017 at 1:00 pm #1691212Andy I think it is pretty safe to assume there were no tickets issued, but not knowing and the lack of transparency (not just on this specific example, but in general) is a major factor in this whole thing. Additionally, having an entirely separate judicial system based off of race, is something we as a country supported moving past decades ago…except in this scenario. Operation Squarehook falls in a similar category as this imo. Something that is illegal (commercial harvest w/out permit) under both Tribal and MN law. However, the laws were not applied due to the race of the harvesting party having it’s own separate and unequal judicial system. And if the providers are not found guilty of anything, it’s pretty difficult to find the purchasers guilty.
The “deer poacher” is a poor example, as he got off due to constitutionally illegal (and ill advised) GPS tracking w/out warrant. As much as I disagree with what he supposedly did, anyone of any race/color/creed would have gotten off for the same reason.
Kory, you made some very good points here and yes I do pretty much agree with what you said.
On a related note, something to share…I remember last winter catching but a few walleyes out ice fishing and was happy to catch them. After I released them I felt a sadness. After quickly and carefully unhooking them and a quick measurement and then back in the water in less than a minute, I thought about them in a few months at the end of a spear or dragged up in a net. It is what it is I guess, but it still made me sad.MNdrifterPosts: 1671OldstarPosts: 42May 4, 2017 at 10:52 am #1692270<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>BigWerm wrote:</div>
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Walleyestudent Andy Cox wrote:</div>
Not trying to be a JD Winston here, however fish and game violations or abuses does not discriminate only to the “red man”.Actually Andy it does, and that is the problem. If I were caught on video breaking the law (wanton waste is illegal even if the <strong class=”ido-tag-strong”>bass was in season), I would be ticketed at the very least.
And I truly try to stay objective in these events, that is what separates the “high ground” from the finger pointing.
Despite what some have posted here, do you or anyone know whether in fact they were ticketed or issued a citation? Maybe…maybe not? Possibly they were?
As far as the discrimination goes, remember the “deer poacher” last year that got off because the law enforcement bungled the warrant allowance and GPS’d his truck and it all got dismissed because of that misstep and everyone knows he’s guilty.
Or “Operation Squarehook” that took years to gather evidence and build the case only to have multiple indictments being dismissed. And FWIW, many involved were the buyers, restaurant owners that were as much or more guilty. No they were not “the red men”.Andy, maybe this fall someone will pull a 77′ dodge truck with no muffler into your front yard and blast a deer. You can video tape it and nothing will happen.Then maybe your opinion will change. If you don’t see this action as terribly wrong and disrespectful to the property owners and the resource you are part of the problem. How can you possible be objective in this situation??? White,black,yellow, red it does not matter wrong is wrong. This has never been a race issue to many of us, nor did I see any racist remarks on this post. It is wrong and antiquated and should be stopped. It is 2017 not 1853.
nhammInactiveRobbinsdalePosts: 7348May 4, 2017 at 1:09 pm #1692318Discharging a firearm on private property is equal to chucking a spear on public waters? Ha!
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