2017 Spring Entertainment!

  • Utness
    Mille Lacs
    Posts: 10
    #1690776

    I have had a front row seat (as I have for many years) to observe the tribal harvest on Mille Lacs. The video link below is what I witnessed on the evening of April 17th. It was taken while sitting on my dock as some tribal rigs were cruising continuously back and forth along the shoreline. This one in the video stood out more than most that came by. Turn up the volume so you can experience what my neighbors and I did for a number of nights!

    Mocha
    Park Rapids
    Posts: 1452
    #1690777

    THX for sharing this devastation of Mille Lacs!

    roosterrouster
    Inactive
    The "IGH"...
    Posts: 2092
    #1690780

    Thanks for posting. I’m sure our DNR handled the bass situation in a timely fashion (Even w/ video proof…) flame flame flame

    Chuck Melcher
    SE Wisconsin, Racine County
    Posts: 1966
    #1690784

    I’m a long ways from having any understanding on how in modern times any one group of people are allowed rights no others are. Doubt anyone could ever convince me this is right. Glad I don’t have it in my face on a regular basis – my frustration would grow quickly.

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11636
    #1690788

    Thanks for posting, and please keep them coming. Any nets out yet?

    buckybadger
    Upper Midwest
    Posts: 8169
    #1690791

    I’m glad to be 100+ miles away from this. I could not calmly sit and observe this for a minute.

    These cowards should be prosecuted to the fullest extent for killing fish and wanton waste.

    Utness
    Mille Lacs
    Posts: 10
    #1690792

    Actually the local DNR officer was on it quickly. Unfortunately all he could do is turn it over the evidence to the band’s (FDL) DNR for prosecution of wanton waste.

    roosterrouster
    Inactive
    The "IGH"...
    Posts: 2092
    #1690798

    Actually the local DNR officer was on it quickly. Unfortunately all he could do is turn it over the evidence to the band’s (FDL) DNR for prosecution of wanton waste.

    Hhmm…Good to hear they followed through…

    buckybadger
    Upper Midwest
    Posts: 8169
    #1690799

    Actually the local DNR officer was on it quickly. Unfortunately all he could do is turn it over the evidence to the band’s (FDL) DNR for prosecution of wanton waste.

    I’m sure the punishment there will be swift, powerful, and effective roll

    Eelpoutguy
    Farmington, Outing
    Posts: 10426
    #1690817

    should have thrown them a qt. of oil to put in the generator.
    hey, can we keep the bass? I dunno. priceless.

    Walleyestudent Andy Cox
    Garrison MN-Mille Lacs
    Posts: 4484
    #1690871

    Not trying to be a JD Winston here, however fish and game violations or abuses does not discriminate only to the “red man”. How many deer poaching or gross overlimits of fish have been revealed. Not even considering all the unseen or “wink-wink” of the “non-indigenous” peoples. Just saying…

    Jon Jordan
    Keymaster
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 6019
    #1690965

    Actually the local DNR officer was on it quickly. Unfortunately all he could do is turn it over the evidence to the band’s (FDL) DNR for prosecution of wanton waste.

    There are no Minnesota courts that have jurisdiction. Unfortunately, this will go nowhere. chased

    -J.

    mike-west
    Amery, WI
    Posts: 1422
    #1690970

    This is LUDACRIS
    1st take one of the countries premier Walleye lakes and allow the Natural reproduction process to be stunted due to some treaty that was established back when ever and then at the same time, protect the BASS.
    I have never seen anything so upside in, inisde down.
    Amazing.
    And I do agree with some of the comments, no way could I sit there and watch that take place. I’d be looking deep into the treaties to find where it also stated at one time, more than 3 could/should be considered a war party.
    Okay, better now
    Thanks for sharing

    basseyes
    Posts: 2509
    #1691009

    All I got’s to say is, state run casinos and this all goes away.

    Tuma
    Inactive
    Farmington, MN
    Posts: 1403
    #1691021

    flame

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1691076

    Catch and release spearing. Such conservationists.

    mallardmayhem
    Spicer, MN
    Posts: 68
    #1691082

    Unreal!!! Makes me sick & furious!

    shady5
    Posts: 491
    #1691094

    Come on, everyone, this is for “ceremonial” purposes. You know, running generators on pontoons is JUST LIKE the old days!

    chuck100
    Platteville,Wi.
    Posts: 2627
    #1691096

    monkeybutts.Wish I could say what I really want to.I have a hunch I would be booted off the site.I am sure most of you feel the same way.

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11636
    #1691102

    Not trying to be a JD Winston here, however fish and game violations or abuses does not discriminate only to the “red man”.

    Actually Andy it does, and that is the problem. If I were caught on video breaking the law (wanton waste is illegal even if the bass was in season), I would be ticketed at the very least.

    Bass_attack
    Posts: 292
    #1691105

    I would feel differently about this if they used handmade birch bark canoes and sharpened sticks because maybe it would be traditional. Instead lets go out here in our gore tex rain gear, triple point barbed spears, run our lights from a generator that lights up the whole bottom of the lake, and get to the spot with the luxary of a outboard motor. Clearly they are practicing the tradition of their ancestors.
    Want some real entertainment sink a soft rubber walleye at the bottom with a string to the dock and play tug o war after they spear it mrgreen

    Walleyestudent Andy Cox
    Garrison MN-Mille Lacs
    Posts: 4484
    #1691107

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Walleyestudent Andy Cox wrote:</div>
    Not trying to be a JD Winston here, however fish and game violations or abuses does not discriminate only to the “red man”.

    Actually Andy it does, and that is the problem. If I were caught on video breaking the law (wanton waste is illegal even if the <strong class=”ido-tag-strong”>bass was in season), I would be ticketed at the very least.

    And I truly try to stay objective in these events, that is what separates the “high ground” from the finger pointing.
    Despite what some have posted here, do you or anyone know whether in fact they were ticketed or issued a citation? Maybe…maybe not? Possibly they were?
    As far as the discrimination goes, remember the “deer poacher” last year that got off because the law enforcement bungled the warrant allowance and GPS’d his truck and it all got dismissed because of that misstep and everyone knows he’s guilty.
    Or “Operation Squarehook” that took years to gather evidence and build the case only to have multiple indictments being dismissed. And FWIW, many involved were the buyers, restaurant owners that were as much or more guilty. No they were not “the red men”.

    Utness
    Mille Lacs
    Posts: 10
    #1691113

    It’s not the wanton waste that bothers me the most. But the way state anglers are assessed with hooking mortality and the bands are not assessed spearing or netting mortality. Also the disruption of the spawning walleyes. This goes on through out the night during the spawn. I wish more people could see what we have witnessed for years!

    Serpant
    Albertville, MN
    Posts: 30
    #1691156

    Thanks for sharing….simply disgusting, and don’t care what clan, nation, citizenship, state, creed, color or whatever the f you are…smoking a bass to let die or having a walleye fall off your spear should be counted for the poundage…really want to know their spearing mortality number, but that will never happen. The only count we would get is from folks like yourself video taping or witnessing this (in that clip they are 1 for 3 – 2 fish dead and not collected). And I would gain faith with the FDL if they prosecuted these clowns and published it, or confirm with the MN DNR that this was handled properly. Any other citizen busted would be in the Cuffs and Collars section (as they should). And kudos, I couldn’t of held back.

    Jon Jordan
    Keymaster
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 6019
    #1691175

    Operation Squarehook is exactly why the MN DNR will do nothing. Why should they? Any case they take to court will simply get tossed out. No matter how bad the crime or how strong the evidence. We are all screwed!

    -J.

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11636
    #1691190

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>BigWerm wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Walleyestudent Andy Cox wrote:</div>
    Not trying to be a JD Winston here, however fish and game violations or abuses does not discriminate only to the “red man”.

    Actually Andy it does, and that is the problem. If I were caught on video breaking the law (wanton waste is illegal even if the <strong class=”ido-tag-strong”>bass was in season), I would be ticketed at the very least.

    And I truly try to stay objective in these events, that is what separates the “high ground” from the finger pointing.
    Despite what some have posted here, do you or anyone know whether in fact they were ticketed or issued a citation? Maybe…maybe not? Possibly they were?
    As far as the discrimination goes, remember the “deer poacher” last year that got off because the law enforcement bungled the warrant allowance and GPS’d his truck and it all got dismissed because of that misstep and everyone knows he’s guilty.
    Or “Operation Squarehook” that took years to gather evidence and build the case only to have multiple indictments being dismissed. And FWIW, many involved were the buyers, restaurant owners that were as much or more guilty. No they were not “the red men”.

    Andy I think it is pretty safe to assume there were no tickets issued, but not knowing and the lack of transparency (not just on this specific example, but in general) is a major factor in this whole thing. Additionally, having an entirely separate judicial system based off of race, is something we as a country supported moving past decades ago…except in this scenario. Operation Squarehook falls in a similar category as this imo. Something that is illegal (commercial harvest w/out permit) under both Tribal and MN law. However, the laws were not applied due to the race of the harvesting party having it’s own separate and unequal judicial system. And if the providers are not found guilty of anything, it’s pretty difficult to find the purchasers guilty.

    The “deer poacher” is a poor example, as he got off due to constitutionally illegal (and ill advised) GPS tracking w/out warrant. As much as I disagree with what he supposedly did, anyone of any race/color/creed would have gotten off for the same reason.

    Walleyestudent Andy Cox
    Garrison MN-Mille Lacs
    Posts: 4484
    #1691212

    Andy I think it is pretty safe to assume there were no tickets issued, but not knowing and the lack of transparency (not just on this specific example, but in general) is a major factor in this whole thing. Additionally, having an entirely separate judicial system based off of race, is something we as a country supported moving past decades ago…except in this scenario. Operation Squarehook falls in a similar category as this imo. Something that is illegal (commercial harvest w/out permit) under both Tribal and MN law. However, the laws were not applied due to the race of the harvesting party having it’s own separate and unequal judicial system. And if the providers are not found guilty of anything, it’s pretty difficult to find the purchasers guilty.

    The “deer poacher” is a poor example, as he got off due to constitutionally illegal (and ill advised) GPS tracking w/out warrant. As much as I disagree with what he supposedly did, anyone of any race/color/creed would have gotten off for the same reason.

    Kory, you made some very good points here and yes I do pretty much agree with what you said.
    On a related note, something to share…I remember last winter catching but a few walleyes out ice fishing and was happy to catch them. After I released them I felt a sadness. After quickly and carefully unhooking them and a quick measurement and then back in the water in less than a minute, I thought about them in a few months at the end of a spear or dragged up in a net. It is what it is I guess, but it still made me sad. sad

    MNdrifter
    Posts: 1671
    #1691259

    ^^^^ Me too Andy, me too (long sigh). ^^^^
    cry

    Oldstar
    Posts: 42
    #1692270

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>BigWerm wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Walleyestudent Andy Cox wrote:</div>
    Not trying to be a JD Winston here, however fish and game violations or abuses does not discriminate only to the “red man”.

    Actually Andy it does, and that is the problem. If I were caught on video breaking the law (wanton waste is illegal even if the <strong class=”ido-tag-strong”>bass was in season), I would be ticketed at the very least.

    And I truly try to stay objective in these events, that is what separates the “high ground” from the finger pointing.
    Despite what some have posted here, do you or anyone know whether in fact they were ticketed or issued a citation? Maybe…maybe not? Possibly they were?
    As far as the discrimination goes, remember the “deer poacher” last year that got off because the law enforcement bungled the warrant allowance and GPS’d his truck and it all got dismissed because of that misstep and everyone knows he’s guilty.
    Or “Operation Squarehook” that took years to gather evidence and build the case only to have multiple indictments being dismissed. And FWIW, many involved were the buyers, restaurant owners that were as much or more guilty. No they were not “the red men”.

    Andy, maybe this fall someone will pull a 77′ dodge truck with no muffler into your front yard and blast a deer. You can video tape it and nothing will happen.Then maybe your opinion will change. If you don’t see this action as terribly wrong and disrespectful to the property owners and the resource you are part of the problem. How can you possible be objective in this situation??? White,black,yellow, red it does not matter wrong is wrong. This has never been a race issue to many of us, nor did I see any racist remarks on this post. It is wrong and antiquated and should be stopped. It is 2017 not 1853.

    nhamm
    Inactive
    Robbinsdale
    Posts: 7348
    #1692318

    Discharging a firearm on private property is equal to chucking a spear on public waters? Ha!

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