2015 Boat Registration-w/trailer decal notice

  • Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1489749

    Aside from citation issued or not do we agree the law should be repealed?

    Fines or no fines, it’s another bad law and yes is should be repealed.

    I don’t have the time to go into detail right now, but what were they thinking??

    I’ve asked Rep Ward to stop by and explain the thoughts but he’s been too busy to respond. Hopefully he’ll allow a video at the Roundtable in a few weeks and I’ll share it here. But I’m not holding my breath.

    belletaine
    Nevis, MN
    Posts: 5116
    #1489771

    Couldn’t agree more BK.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1489802

    Come to think of it, this law makes the last sticker law look pretty sweet. doah

    hl&sinker
    Inactive
    north fowl
    Posts: 605
    #1489828

    This probably wont have much to do with this dumb law but did you all catch State House Republicans have yanked Rep. Jean Wagenius, aMinneapolis DFLer and longtime ally of environmentalists, from her longstanding spot as lead House Democrat on the committee that oversees state spending on environment and natural resources. Maybe some changes on the way.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1489852

    Pfft, I can’t even keep up with the sewage treatment plant they want to build in my front yard or the 18 casks of spent fuel rods sitting next to the river with no place to go. doah

    carver
    West Metro
    Posts: 611
    #1489867

    86B.13 AQUATIC INVASIVE SPECIES PREVENTION PROGRAM.
    Subdivision 1.Establishment. The commissioner shall establish a statewide course in preventing the spread of aquatic invasive species. The commissioner must develop an educational course and testing program that address identification of aquatic invasive species and best practices to prevent the spread of aquatic invasive species when moving water-related equipment, as defined under section 84D.01, subdivision 18a.

    Subd. 1a.Training for offenders. A person who is convicted of or subject to a final order for a violation of chapter 84D involving water-related equipment must successfully complete the training course in subdivision 1 before continuing operation or use of water-related equipment.
    [See Note.]

    Subd. 2.Aquatic invasive species trailer decal. The commissioner shall issue an aquatic invasive species trailer decal for each trailer owned by a person that satisfactorily completes the required course of instruction.

    Subd. 3.Contracting for services. The commissioner may contract for services to provide training and testing services under this section.

    §Subd. 4.Aquatic invasive species trailer decal display required. (a) A person may not transport watercraft or water-related equipment, as defined under section 84D.01, subdivision 18a, with a trailer unless the person has an aquatic invasive species trailer decal issued under this section. Temporary authorizations valid for seven days can be requested by persons that have not completed the required course of instruction.
    (b) Aquatic invasive species trailer decals are valid for three years.
    (c) The aquatic invasive species trailer decal must be adhered to the side of the trailer frame tongue near the hitch in a manner that it is readily visible and does not interfere with the display of any registration requirements under section 169.79.
    (d) Aquatic invasive species trailer decals are not transferable.
    (e) Violation of this section shall not result in a penalty, but is punishable only by a warning.
    [See Note.]

    History: 2012 c 272 s 21; 2013 c 121 s 24
    NOTE: Subdivision 1a, as added by Laws 2013, chapter 121, section 24, is effective July 1, 2015. Laws 2013, chapter 121, section 24, the effective date.
    NOTE: Subdivision 4, as added by Laws 2012, chapter 272, section 21, is effective July 1, 2015. Laws 2012, chapter 272, section 21, the effective date.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1489926

    Carver, how long do you think it’s going to be before that highlighted area is changed? I’ll give it two years if this law stays in effect.

    We can be detained for not having a decal. I hope everyone understands what that means. I know, I know…I don’t have anything to hide either.

    If you haven’t already expressed this concern to the Commissioner, his e-mail is

    [email protected].

    carver
    West Metro
    Posts: 611
    #1490050

    I agree BK, i give it 2 years as well. On a side note, i guess i will get a stern talking to July 1.

    My opinion on this would be this. If they really want to get people to be compliant then get them when they renew their boat license every year.

    Keep the nonres out of the equation, but i see what their trying to accomplish there but i just think people don’t care that much, they care more about grilling food, drinking beer and catching the occasional walleye during their vacation.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1490095

    i guess i will get a stern talking to July 1.

    THAT my friend is half the problem! It doesn’t matter if we have any ais or not, you are guilty of failure to show the decal which might mean I didn’t take the “test”, which might mean I have AIS, which might mean it came from the same body of water your going back to.

    We could be completely innocent of the “spirit of the law” but totally guilty of the “letter of the law”. To hell with transporting AIS! We can be detained by not showing a sticker.

    For all of you FB folks, this page has gone from 0 to 777 likes in less then 12 hours.

    Repeal-MN-Statute-86B13

    Might want to check it out and give it a “like”.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1490158

    The amazing thing is this Ward dude isn’t representing Hennepin county, he’s representing the Brainerd area which I thought is dependent on a lot of tourist money?

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1490221

    If a person thinks about it, what better way to educate the public!

    Make an unenforceable law that pisses all the boaters off, then repeal it before it takes effect. (I know, I’m giving certain people too much credit).

    The public educating the public!

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1490223

    PS that FB page jumped over night to 1200 folks reaching 6000+ people.

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16748
    #1490225

    In todays world you can print money at Kinkos. frown Just print your own sticker and put it on. Will it be anymore bogus then the law it’s self? devil

    desperado
    Posts: 3010
    #1490239

    would you like to play the game ?

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    SLACK
    HASTINGS, MN
    Posts: 711
    #1490377

    If a person thinks about it, what better way to educate the public!

    Make an unenforceable law that pisses all the boaters off, then repeal it before it takes effect. (I know, I’m giving certain people too much credit).

    The public educating the public!

    this is exactly whats going to happen, this bill (at least the sticker) part of it will be repealed before it goes into effect.

    cougareye
    Hudson, WI
    Posts: 4145
    #1490533

    The amazing thing is this Ward dude isn’t representing Hennepin county, he’s representing the Brainerd area which I thought is dependent on a lot of tourist money?

    Tourist money! Bing Bing Bing! These representatives are mistakenly believing that these AIS laws will preserve tourist money by protecting lakes from invasive species. They don’t care about the resident boaters cause you are going to comply with the stupid rule one way or the other. They actually believe they are protecting their biggest commodity. Invasive free lakes.

    When they fail, and we all know they will either fail to protect the lakes or invasives won’t kill lakes and thus tourist dollars, they can point to this meaningless effort and say “we tried”. Actually by the time this proves fruitful or not, 90% of current reps will be elsewhere.

    And out of state tourists won’t base their decisions to come to MN based on this. It might urine them off once they get here, but it won’t stop them from coming.

    ET

    desperado
    Posts: 3010
    #1490541

    until they do the same for every tug/barge upbound at lock&dam 8 and every freighter upbound at Sault locks, what’s the point ?

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1490601

    You know Don although the tows aren’t on trailers the DNR has documented the fact that there are more zebs where the tows stop. Whether it’s a lock or a mooring point.

    Ahh, the river is classified as infested already. That won’t hold water.

    carroll58
    Twin Cities, USA
    Posts: 2094
    #1490628

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>belletaine wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>carroll58 wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>belletaine wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Randy Wieland wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>cycle wrote:</div>
    If it is required (as they say), eventually they will have a penalty or fine involved. I think the wording would be all different if they were not going add some enforcement leverage to it down the road.

    Cycle, my interpretation of how the federal law reads for traveling between states makes this all a big joke. I’ll have a copy of the federal law to give then in lieu of receiving anything from MN. now boating in MN is completely different than driving through

    The story I saw on Channel 5 said either for the remainder of 2015 or six months they will give warnings and after the “grace” period fines will be levied. I just don’t believe the people traveling thru the state will be required to have this let alone the residents. Makes me pine for the days of Governor turnbuckle.

    I do not see how they can state they will LEVY FINE$ as there is currently No Provision within this Law giving the DNR that Authority!

    That’s what they said on the news.

    Aside from citation issued or not do we agree the law should be repealed?

    Yes, Most agree that it should be repealed.

    In 48-hours I have almost 2,400 LIKES on a Facebook page to get this Law Repealed: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Repeal-MN-Statute-86B13/1593672207529357

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1490648

    And out of state tourists won’t base their decisions to come to MN based on this. It might urine them off once they get here, but it won’t stop them from coming.

    I assume there are a lot of people that come with boats in tow. If it don’t stop them the first time, a ticket, even just a warning, will tick them off enough to not return?

    When I speak of tourism, I mean not only families staying at resorts, but men (and women) traveling for a extended weekend of fishing.

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16748
    #1490715

    So do we think the DNR has the power to set-up inspection points at the Minnesota points of entry? (truck scales) You think they would actually flag all vehicles pulling a boat into these inspections? Can you imagine the number of rigs being pulled in at the St. Croix scale entering Minnesota from Wisconsin? How about the 35 scale crossing in from Iowa? Maybe the 94 scale up in Morehead coming from North Dakota? The 90 scale coming in from South Dakota? But the point I really, really want them to attempt is entering Minnesota from Canada at International Falls on a Saturday!!!!

    Two things for sure………..1) there would be a lot of unemployed DNR officials and 2) they wouldn’t slow the AIS one little bit.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1490748

    That right there is damn funny… hah unless you’re trailering your boat.

    What I hear over and over again is…. “We have to do something because our lakes are getting ruined”. doah

    Thank you Governor Dayton.

    carroll58
    Twin Cities, USA
    Posts: 2094
    #1491384

    BK, the Bills Authors are part of the problem, but also the 2-guys identified here:
    From the Minnesota OUTDOOR NEWS, {copyright to MN Outdoor News},

    While the concept’s roots can be found in the 2011 legislative session, the requirements coming on-line in 2015 are the result of laws passed in 2012.

    The original bills are HF 2242 and SF 1928. Rep. John Ward, DFL-Baxter – who’s no longer in the House – Sen. Tom Saxhaug, DFL-Grand Rapids, carried those bills.

    Those bills then were rolled into much larger policy bills – HF 2164 and SF 1830. Rep. Denny McNamara, R-Hastings, and Sen. Bill Ingebrigtsen, R-Alexandria, carried those bills.

    Both the House and Senate ultimately approved HF 2164, and Gov. Mark Dayton signed the bill into law on May 3, 2012.

    Write and/or Call these two guys, Ask why would they allow this stupid Bill to be attached to their Policy Bill? Then ask them to REPEAL this LAW!

    Representative Denny McNamara (R) District: 54B
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