1992 mercury outboard

  • Bryan
    Posts: 34
    #1863060

    Was looking to buy a boat yesterday. While out on the lake testing it out the motor suddenly died while going wide open. We could not get it to start after that.

    When you turned the key it would click once then kinda humm. Would the starter going out make it die like that?

    Also when trying to turn it over with a pull rope we could not get the fly wheel to spin like it was locked up.

    sticker
    StillwaterMN/Ottertail county
    Posts: 4418
    #1863062

    Sounds like there was no lower unit grease in the lower unit and you ceased it. Don’t ask how I know that doah redface That is exactly what it happen to me though.

    onestout
    Hudson, WI
    Posts: 2698
    #1863107

    At least it happened before you took it home.

    Jon Jordan
    Keymaster
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 6047
    #1863108

    Are you sure the kill switch was in the “On” position. (Is it possible it was accidentally knocked into the off or kill position?)

    What horse power?

    Are you sure it was in neutral when you tried to restart? If its a tiler, the throttle may have needed to be turned back down to the start position.

    I’ve lunched a lower unit at wide open but that did not affect the motor.

    If you blew a piston, you can usually tell pretty easily by pulling a plug and looking for metal shavings and other crap that is not suppose to be there.

    Good luck.

    -J.

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11832
    #1863122

    When you turned the key it would click once then kinda humm. Would the starter going out make it die like that?

    No, the starter going out would not make it die like that. Once the engine is running, the starter is disengaged from the flywheel and would have no bearing on the engine running or stopping.

    If you put the engine in neutral and you still couldn’t move the flywheel, it’s toasted. Either the previous owner forgot to add lower unit lube or it’s broken a rod or a piston cracked and seized the engine.

    Stick a fork in her, she’s done.

    Grouse

    Bryan
    Posts: 34
    #1863126

    It was in neutral and it is not a tiller. Its a 40 horse motor. Sounds like its worse then they thought. We were going throttling up and it just died. So i would assume now that the motor is locked up.

    How do motors do after a rebuild if it gets it done? Do they last or is it not worth the cost?

    Thanks guys.

    tangler
    Inactive
    Posts: 812
    #1863127

    It was in neutral and it is not a tiller. Its a 40 horse motor. Sounds like its worse then they thought. We were going throttling up and it just died. So i would assume now that the motor is locked up.

    How do motors do after a rebuild if it gets it done? Do they last or is it not worth the cost?

    Thanks guys.

    I would walk away. Or if you love the hull, make an offer on the hull and trailer without the motor.

    Huntindave
    Shell Rock Iowa
    Posts: 3092
    #1863133

    While out on the lake testing it out the motor suddenly died while going wide open.

    Is this motor a two stroke or four stroke motor? If two stroke, I’m betting it was running on straight gas or too lean of a gas/oil mixture.

    Bryan
    Posts: 34
    #1863146

    It had oil injection.

    Huntindave
    Shell Rock Iowa
    Posts: 3092
    #1863150

    It had oil injection.

    Which means if the oil pump quit working, the motor was running on straight gas or too lean of a gas/oil mixture. frown

    Iowaboy1
    Posts: 3827
    #1863188

    a lower unit going out can cause this as both forward and reverse run in constant mesh all of the time,either way,walk away from it as the cost to fix it is worth more than what the motor is worth in pristine condition for that model year.

    oil injection pumps are gear driven off of the crankshaft,if it failed the motor is toast beyond toast,again,walk away.

    too bad as that is/was a fantastic motor of the era.
    pm me with further questions if you wish but the answer will be the same,sorry.

    Bryan
    Posts: 34
    #1863296

    Ok thanks guys. Dont sound good. Not sure if he will have it rebuilt or not. But im not sure if id buy it if it was. Or how they are after a rebuild.

    onestout
    Hudson, WI
    Posts: 2698
    #1863311

    It would be fine if rebuilt correctly just not cost effective. A lower would be a cheap fix, you should be able to find a used lower.

    Bearcat89
    North branch, mn
    Posts: 20815
    #1863333

    How much was the boat because a rebuild is not cheap by any means. It’s hard to justify the price for rebuild over newer motor.

    Bryan
    Posts: 34
    #1863370

    They were asking 3900 for the boat. Not sure what he plans to do. All i know is its at a shop waiting to get checked to see what happened. Or what it need.

    Bryan
    Posts: 34
    #1863726

    Found a new boat i may look at. It has a 91 Johnson outboard on it. They say it takes mixed gas. Any input on this motor? The good or the bad about them?

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11832
    #1863778

    Found a new boat i may look at. It has a 91 Johnson outboard on it. They say it takes mixed gas. Any input on this motor? The good or the bad about them?

    What HP? If it had the VRO oil injection and they disconnected it, walk away. There was a big fad by armchair mechanics of removing the VRO system because they thought they knew better. More outboards have been blown up by owners who removed the VRO system and then forgot to mix the gas than were ever blown by a failed VRO.

    BTW, having an engine blow due to a failed oil injection pump is incredibly rare regardless of brand.

    Grouse

    Bryan
    Posts: 34
    #1863834

    Its a 40 horse. Model vj40tleia not sure how to tell if that model had a pump or not

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