16yr Old Crossing Border?

  • Weekender
    Southcentral MN
    Posts: 434
    #2138244

    How old do you need to be before you don’t need a parent’s letter? My nephew wants to ride to Canada with my parents (his grandparents). He is 16. Does he still need a letter from both parents (divorced parents)? He has driver’s license, birth certificate, passport, vax card, etc.

    Thanks.

    ShldHveBenHreYserdy
    MN
    Posts: 184
    #2138340

    How old do you need to be before you don’t need a parent’s letter? My nephew wants to ride to Canada with my parents (his grandparents). He is 16. Does he still need a letter from both parents (divorced parents)? He has driver’s license, birth certificate, passport, vax card, etc.

    Thanks.

    We went through this a month ago; my friend and I met my dad and my 15year old nephew/grandson.
    They did have the consent letter ready but the border agent never asked for it. Just the passport and arrivecan/vax info. I believe my sister is the only one that filled it out and they are divorced.
    It wont hurt to bring the letter otherwise it could be a PITA.

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 11917
    #2138341

    If possible I’d just bring the letters so there is no Hassle. Those Canadian border agents run from Super fussy to I could not give a _hit. If your luck is like ours when crossing the border you will get the super fussy. I would not take the chance.

    Weekender
    Southcentral MN
    Posts: 434
    #2138369

    Thanks for the replies!

    Getting a letter from his mom is damn near impossible as she won’t give him anything unless she gets something in return. She does it to play mind games and it’s terrible. My nephew’s dad has no problem signing the letter as he wants him to go have fun and catch fish, swim, play games, etc.

    So it’s a conundrum. Can have dad’s letter, but the mom won’t do one to be spiteful.

    Might just get dad’s letter, have all the paperwork and give it a go. He’ll be riding with grandpa and grandma, so that might help things.

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 11917
    #2138376

    Thanks for the replies!

    Getting a letter from his mom is damn near impossible as she won’t give him anything unless she gets something in return. She does it to play mind games and it’s terrible. My nephew’s dad has no problem signing the letter as he wants him to go have fun and catch fish, swim, play games, etc.

    So it’s a conundrum. Can have dad’s letter, but the mom won’t do one to be spiteful.

    Might just get dad’s letter, have all the paperwork and give it a go. He’ll be riding with grandpa and grandma, so that might help things.

    Well in that case you may just have to take your chances. I think your chances to have any issues is slim. I’d have the form from the dad just in case. That may be enough. Best case would be if they don’t even ask for any additional paperwork. I’d just hand the border agent his Passport and not volunteer any additional Info. unless asked for. This may sound funny, but I’d also try and time the border crossing at a busy time at one of the busier entry points. They seem to not ask as many questions when they are really busy. I think when its really slow, they look for more things to make the day more interesting. Good luck, Hope you don’t have a problem, and you have fun.

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 11917
    #2138378

    One other thing I’d add is to make sure there is nothing in the Divorce paperwork about needing written consent to take the child out of the State or Country. I know this type of information is often in the child section of some divorce paperwork. A situation like this may put your parents ( the Grandparents in a bad legal situation ) Just my .02 worth.

    Cam White
    Posts: 153
    #2138446

    Agree with the last post. They are hyper sensitive about kids crossing without both parental permission slips. Some care, some don’t. We have had kids from both countries taken by parents across the border without the other knowing, made for bad press both ways.

    Weekender
    Southcentral MN
    Posts: 434
    #2138475

    Are there options if the mom refuses to provide a letter?

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11624
    #2138477

    I was just in Canada last week with my 13-year-old.

    I had the letter from my wife, but the border agent never asked for it.

    I think the older the kid is, the less likely it is that they are being taken against their will, so IMO it seems less of a concern than with younger children.

    I HAVE been asked for the letter when the kids were younger.

    When I first started taking the kids to Canada, as is common with Canadian government dealings, I could not find or get a straight answer on whether or not a consent letter is actually REQUIRED for entering Canada with minors.

    Lots of sites use mushy language saying it is “advised” or “helpful”, but I was not able to find an actual definitive answer on a Canadian government site.

    Weekender
    Southcentral MN
    Posts: 434
    #2139034

    Bit of positive news… it sounds like mom is going to provide the letter. But of course, that’s what’s been said thus far

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