If you want to see how the government has spent that money 60 minutes is doing a piece on it Sunday. Should prove to be interesting.
BTW, Biden is asking congress for another 20+ billion right now.
Don’t watch if you don’t care how your tax dollars are spent.
As far as I see it, we should now own all the grain and oil futures and whatever else they produce over there until we are paid back.
But that is common sense and common sense isn’t so common anymore.
I’m all for helping them but there has to be a cap. The other countries can step in more and take the reigns for awhile.
I’m sure watching 60 minutes will just raise my blood pressure…
JMHO
I guess I don’t understand politics nor do I want to. I am all for helping people out but jeez if I was in debt like we are why do we keep throwing debt on??
It is a mind blowing amount of money. Much cheaper than Afghanistan which we were funding for so long we didn’t’ think about it. How do I feel about it? No idea.
Maybe the Ukrainians could go to Afghanistan and ask the taliban for the billions worth of equipment we left there…
I do not see a problem with it. It’s all about helping a nation in need.
I do not see a problem with it. It’s all about helping a nation in need.
at what point do we start helping ourselves and the united states is what i would like to know?
I do not see a problem with it. It’s all about helping a nation in need.
Is there any point when we say no? Or at least attach conditions regarding repayment or are you fine with the taxpayers eating the whole load?
I do not see a problem with it. It’s all about helping a nation in need.
I wish I felt that it was as simple as that.
How much did the people on Maui get again? Or near the train wreck in Ohio? Or just about anywhere else in this country that needs aid.
I wish I knew the 60 minutes report was gonna be 100% facts with zero bias or conflicted interest.
Congress has approved every single dollar sent to Ukraine. That’s the Senate which is a Democratic majority, and the House, which is a Republican majority. The President requests funding for Ukraine, and Congress then either approves or denies it. It’s not like the President can just spend money on whatever he wants, willy nilly. When he does, the Supreme Court strikes it down, just like they did with the student loan thing.
Natural disaster recovery like the Maui wildfires goes through FEMA.
The scary thing here is if this war ever ends the US needs to be the one to rebuild this country because if we don’t, the Chinese are going to swoop in and get access to all those resources just like they did when we pulled out of Afghanistan. China bought up HUGE lithium deposits and are way ahead of us in that aspect of natural resources because of the governments ignorance.
I was totally for helping out Ukraine and honestly still am, but as this goes longer and longer with no end in sight, how long can we afford to do this? And what happens if we cut the support? I wouldn’t put it past Russia to keep going right into Poland and other EU nations. The world is a better place with the US in front and keeping order. But again, how long can we afford to do it?
I agree mahto. Russia sucks, but it can’t just be an endless blank check either.
Foreign policy has absolutely nothing to do with helping countries in need. It’s a massive chess match where your only interest is your own. We are helping Ukraine because it’s good for us.
How is it good for us? It contains Russia from engaging in rampant imperialism and this war sets them back big time at becoming more powerful on the world stage. It reinforces our position on the world stage.
This war has shown pretty clearly how weak Russia really is militarily too.
It’s quite entertaining how you guys are all of a sudden putting a price on freedom only because you don’t like the president. The cost of supporting Ukraine isn’t like taking money out of our bank account. Our government will be replacing what we give them with more government contracts. The company I work for has built north of 500 units used on Abrams tanks in the past couple years and our involvement will only help our economy.
Unfortunately the huge downside is the fat cats connected to the military industrial complex are the ones who will benefit the most. At least this time it isn’t at the cost of American lives.
I was totally for helping out Ukraine and honestly still am, but as this goes longer and longer with no end in sight, how long can we afford to do this? And what happens if we cut the support? I wouldn’t put it past Russia to keep going right into Poland and other EU nations. The world is a better place with the US in front and keeping order. But again, how long can we afford to do it?
I read somewhere that Ukraine’s intelligence suggests that Russia’s economy will begin to suffer massively I want to say sometime in 2024 and they will begin to run out of supplies and equipment by the end of 2025.
A big push to end the war before then will cost more lives than just enduring until then.
Keep in mind, we’ve always supported Ukraine. The scale of this support is unprecedented but we’ve always supported them with supplies and equipment.
Too bad the most powerful military in the world does not belong to the UN
Rule #1 would be don’t invade another country
Rule #2 don’t forget about rule #1
Back to reality maybe we tell Russia that Ukraine will be a part of NATO in 6 mo. so get out. At the very least this european problem should be handled a bit more by say….hmmmm….europe. As much as I disliked our last prez. I did like that he got NATO nations to kick in more for defense, cannot remember a president who even ASKED for that. So sad that Russia can steal & kill and get away with it.
If Russia shows any signs of strength, enemies of the US and what we stand for will come out of the woodwork to back Russia.
It’s kind of late to just shut off the spigot. If it happens, everything else was for nothing.
I support funding for Ukraine with the clause that we gain some access to their mineral deposits or valuable resources at a reduced rate. We don’t have the $$$ to do it for nothing indefinitely, and anything in retribution is something.
We just print the money here. What’s the big fuss?
As long as Ukraine’s people are willing to fight and die for their country, all of NATO should continue helping.
the United States will have sent an astounding $100 billion to Ukraine by the end of the year. This will be more than triple the amount of the next highest funder, Germany, who sits just to the west of the conflict. Many critics of the funding of the war in Ukraine have recently become all the more frustrated, as the Clinton Global Initiative has now become involved in the conflict, making many wonder who exactly is turning a profit behind the curtain of war.
This was on MSN today. Last I heard there was no oversight on the funds we are sending to Ukraine. Makes one wonde if someone isn’t profiting from the war.
the United States will have sent an astounding $100 billion to Ukraine by the end of the year. This will be more than triple the amount of the next highest funder, Germany, who sits just to the west of the conflict. Many critics of the funding of the war in Ukraine have recently become all the more frustrated, as the Clinton Global Initiative has now become involved in the conflict, making many wonder who exactly is turning a profit behind the curtain of war.
This was on MSN today. Last I heard there was no oversight on the funds we are sending to Ukraine. Makes one wonde if someone isn’t profiting from the war.
Exactly why I want to watch the 60 minutes segment tonight.
It takes alot of $$ to keep the doors closed on the Biden corruption info that people inside of Ukraine have in possession. A guy has to wonder how much this affects our donations.
Do you think 60 Minutes will talk about the FTX slush fund going back to the DNC and probably the RNC too?
We just print the money here. What’s the big fuss?
I hope you were being sarcastic, otherwise you need to look back to the 80’s when Jimmy Carter tried to pay off the national debt by printing money.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>eyeguy507 wrote:</div>
We just print the money here. What’s the big fuss?I hope you were being sarcastic, otherwise you need to look back to the 80’s when Jimmy Carter tried to pay off the national debt by printing money.
Germany did the same after WW1, trying to pay war reparations, which was why Hitler was so pissed at the Weimar Republic. I have a ten billion Deutschmark note in my gun safe. The strength of the dollar is going the same way, down the shitter. History has a funny way of repeating itself.
Foreign policy has absolutely nothing to do with helping countries in need. It’s a massive chess match where your only interest is your own. We are helping Ukraine because it’s good for us.
How is it good for us? It contains Russia from engaging in rampant imperialism and this war sets them back big time at becoming more powerful on the world stage. It reinforces our position on the world stage.
Totally agree.
Also, this is a once in a generation opportunity to both check Russian aggression AND weaken both the Russian dictator and his military so badly that no recovery will be possible in Putin’s lifetime. All without the risks of direct US military involvement.
In addition I don’t think many understand the whole picture. What if we sit on our hands and wait for an emboldened Putin to decide that sense invading Ukraine was a rousing success and met no resistance, he now wants to mount another “special military operation” to take part of Poland or Eastern Germany?
We are obliged under the NATO treaty to defend with a full military response all invasions of other NATO member states. If the invader happens to be Russia, then we have all of NATO involved in direct combat against a nuclear power whose leader is crazy enough to actually use them.
Funding Ukraine to fight the Russians is the least bad option when you have a maniac like Putin invading neighboring states. Encouraging Putin with success will only embolden him to continue this idea of recapturing former Soviet glory by invading other states.
We are obliged under the NATO treaty to defend with a full military response all invasions of other NATO member states.
Yes, but Ukraine is not a NATO member. If Russia invaded a standing member of NATO, the response would be much different. NATO members would actually engage Russia in military combat.
I think we will find out that of all those billions only 40 billion or so is actual military hardware. We will see.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>TheFamousGrouse wrote:</div>
We are obliged under the NATO treaty to defend with a full military response all invasions of other NATO member states.Yes, but Ukraine is not a NATO member. If Russia invaded a standing member of NATO, the response would be much different. NATO members would actually engage Russia in military combat.
Right….which is why we’re “fighting” this with funding vs directly with American service members. If Russia invades a NATO member, then our boys are going to be doing some of the fighting.
NATO invaded Ukraine first to protect bioweapon labs. Another NATO stated goals is to force Russia to become LGBTQ+P compliant.
What are.you going to do? Stop funding and let Russia win and you’ve now given any other bad guy a license to go do the same. North Korea or otherwise. You’ve also given Russia a free pass to continue going west into other countries they’d like to have.
But how this ever ends? That is the killer question.
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